cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Reply
ChrisBenJohnson
Advocate II
Advocate II

Expression Update Not Saving

When I am building long Flows with long expressions I find I run into an issue where, when I amend an expression, clicking the Update button doesn;t save the changes. I can see this by immediately hovering over the expression block and the tooltip confirms the changes haven't saved.

 

This only seems to become an issue when Flows grow to a particular size (not sure what the threshold is though).

 

This can be very confusing when testing a change and seeing no difference. Now I always double check changes to expressions. The workaround I have found is to make my changes, copy the entire expression, delete all text in the expression and paste it back in. This has a 100% success rate (so far!)

 

For info, I am using Chrome.

28 REPLIES 28
yashag2255
Super User
Super User

Hi @ChrisBenJohnson 

 

So when you ammend the expression, do you update it with the cursor at the point where the change was made? Can you please try this: Create an expression and save. Come back and update the expression -> ensure that the cursor is at the end of the expression and then click update. Now check if you continue to face the same issue.

 

Hope this Helps!

 

If this reply has answered your question or solved your issue, please mark this question as answered. Answered questions helps users in the future who may have the same issue or question quickly find a resolution via search. If you liked my response, please consider giving it a thumbs up. THANKS!

 @yashag2255, unfortunately that didn't make a difference. The cursor can be at any point in the expression and it won't update. This seems to happen once several functions are nested within one another - simple expressions aren't affected,

v-bacao-msft
Community Support
Community Support

Hi @ChrisBenJohnson ,

 

At present in Flow, the Expression limit is 131,072 characters, @concat(), @base64(), string can't exceed this limit. According to your description,  it should not be the number of bytes you input exceeds the limit.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/flow/limits-and-config#message-size

 

Your issue might be because an embedded function, may be lack of a bracket when editing an expression. Sometimes the bracket are missing in expression, and the system does not prompt an error exception.

 

Suggesting you at the time of updating nest function, first copy of the original expression comes out, it is used to edit and backup for preventing after the update of the original expression disappear.

Please pay attention to the use of the nest function when editing, such as brackets matching. It is recommended to check the function parenthesis in VS code or other Editors.

 

At present, the expression input box of Flow is a little trouble when editing complex expression. It is recommended to check it in the editor.

 

Best Regards,

Community Support Team _ Barry
If this post helps, then please consider Accept it as the solution to help the other members find it more quickly.

Hi @v-bacao-msft ,

 

Thanks for the info. My expression is definitely not that long!

 

When working on long, embedded functions I use a text editor to write them as I frequently get caught out by missing parentheses! I used this for this one so I know that a missing bracket isn't the cause.

 

In the example I used to test this, I have a concat() function nested in an if statement. To amend the function, I add an extra string to the concat() function and lick update. It isn't updated. Copy the entire amended expression, delete all expression text, and paste back in, and it works.

 

This tells me the amended expression is syntactically correct.

 

Ironically, when I tried to post this reply first time, it gave me an error and I lost the post. Wish I'd copied that first too!

Hi @ChrisBenJohnson / @v-bacao-msft 

 

This looks like a bug. It happened a couple times with me when I update an expression (in a nested action and the expressions are bit long) it does not update the expression and the only fix I was able to find is, update the expression and place the cursor at the end of the expression and then click update. Only then it worked for me. 

Hi @ChrisBenJohnson / @yashag2255 ,

 

I tried to reproduce the issue you said. I tried the following test case that added time on the timeline and then changed the time zone, but no similar issue was found:

convertFromUtc(addToTime(addSeconds(addMinutes(addHours(adddays(utcnow(),length(string(body('Get_items')?['value'])),'yyyy-MM-ddT00:00:00Z'),length(string(body('Get_items')?['value']))),length(string(outputs('Compose')))),length('this is a test')),11,'day'),'Pacific Standard Time')

Later, a set of unregulated expressions was tested ( purely for the purpose of using functions and without any other substantial meaning).

In addition, two expressions were added in a Compose action, and the issue came up. But then I found that the issue, in this case, does not always reappear. This is incidental, not constant.

6.jpg

If you don't mind, you could share your expression and see how it goes.

 

Best Regards,

Community Support Team _ Barry
If this post helps, then please consider Accept it as the solution to help the other members find it more quickly.

Hi @v-bacao-msft ,

 

Sorry for the late reply. This issue is ongoing. It's present in Chrome and Edge.

 

It seems to be an issue in longer/more complex Flows only, so this makes me think it is an issue with the Flow Checker possibly?

 

The below example is a simple expression where I try to add int( ... ) around the existing expression but it only works on the third time.

 

ezgif-6-1279ceea4f20.gif

@ChrisBenJohnson 

Thanks for posting this issue! I've been suffering it also, but didn't have time to report it. Also tried both with Edge and Chrome.

The procedure I am following is to always copy the expression before clicking UPDATE, store it as Comment, verify change applied by hovering over the expression block and the tooltip confirms if changes were saved properly. This way I make the "code" also more readable, but it is hard to do it everytime... Let's hope Power Automate Team can fix it.

Did I make your day? If so, mark my response as 'Solution' !!!

También escribo sobre Power Automate en este Blog y en Twitter

hjaf
Kudo Commander
Kudo Commander

Also experienced this issue for some time, I have reported it in the in-editor feedback function several times.  

 

This has been such a headache, it has now become routine for me to copy the expression after its changed, attempt to update it, and reopen the editor select all and paste my copied expression again before i click update. Then I need to confirm that the changes has been made because even this is not working all the time. 

 

Please fix this. 

I just discover that after you make changes, you click on Expression or Dynamic Content (focus outside the modified text), then click Update and it works

mboonie
Resolver I
Resolver I

I've noticed this, too, and it's bugged me for quite some time (a couple of years, really.)

I find that it can happen even with flows that aren't  too complex! Sometimes I think it might even be a latency thing. For example, if I want to get "Dynamic Content" to populate a function's parameters, it almost always clears what I've written so far, and I have to start over. It's gotten to the point where I always copy the formula before clicking on the "Update" or "Dynamic Content" links, because it so frequently loses my changes. I also have a strong suspicion that I have better luck if I wait for a good amount of time (5-10 seconds?) before clicking on "Dynamic Content" or "Update," as though there is a script that is parsing the GUI editor, and which sometimes takes a lot longer than others to finish! (I'm so jaded, I make up stories like that to rationalize my technology superstitions.)

BTW, I have noticed another bizarre editor phenomenon: every time I initialize a string variable as an HTML hyperlink/href to the item (to be used in an "HTML only" email message later in the workflow) it lops off the closing "</a>" at the end when I save it! EVERY SINGLE TIME! I have actually accepted that creating a hyperlink is always going to be a two-step process, where I have to go back and (re-)add the "</a>".

And don't even get me STARTED on how it always loses the second parameter of the formatDateTime function--e.g. 'dddd, MMM dd, yyyy'--the first time I create and save it (and after copying that parameter from elsewhere and pasting it, which I do to ensure it matches other formatting.)

 

rbunge
Advocate V
Advocate V

One of my least favorite "features" of PA... highly frustrating at times. Most it's ever taken is 4 Update tries. Another observed behavior is manually typing a long string of characters, flipping to dynamic content to include a variable, only to have a good portion of what was just typed in disappear. As commented by others, you learn what to expect and have different workarounds, but it's been going on long enough that you'd think MS would have taken note and resolved it.

 

While we're at it, another little annoyance is cursor repositioning after inserting a variable (specifically in Approval details, but believe have observed elsewhere)... You put in a variable from DynContent, then the cursor will jump far left and up a few lines. Again, minor, and you learn to deal with it, but certainly hinders development speed.

wavemode
New Member

I experience the exact same as described above, in Chrome and in Edge. I enter an expression and hit Update, and nothing changes.

 

This has gone on for years. Can we please get a fix for this? Or some confirmation that it's being worked on? Thanks.

jdpottle
Regular Visitor

I am having the exact same problem and it's driving me bananas! I change an expression, click update, only to see it has not updated. I can't figure out any pattern to when it works and when it does not. PLEASE fix this problem

AylardJ
Frequent Visitor

I see this same behavior, repeatedly, regardless of the length of the expression. That this remains a bug within Power Automate after all of this time is extremely unfortunate. 

Eddierthomas
Advocate I
Advocate I

Same issue here. I've been using Flow/Automate for years, very disappointing that this hasn't been addressed!

 

When will this functionality work correctly, first time?

dbMichael
Frequent Visitor

I experice the same issue.

 

It is just impressive how much Microsoft promotes a solution that at best can be called to be in an early open beta state as the new standard for low code / no code solution if they are not able to fix such an essential bug.

ChrisBenJohnson
Advocate II
Advocate II

Wow, thank you everyone for continuing to reply (seriously). I think I found a 'fix' to this some time ago actually. When I moved from a slower broadband to fibre optic, the issues went away. I still get it occasionally, and I believe it to be linked to slowness or dropouts of my WiFi. So hopefully that helps some but I'm sure it's of no consolation to others who can't change their internet speed.

Hopefully there is a better fix for this problem than to change the internet speed. This would indicate that Power Automate has fundamental system architecture flaws and it would be very risky to use it within a serious business environment.

Helpful resources

Announcements

Take a short Community User Survey | Help us make your experience better!

To ensure that we are providing the best possible experience for Community members, we want to hear from you!    We value your feedback! As part of our commitment to enhancing your experience, we invite you to participate in a brief 15-question survey. Your insights will help us improve our services and better serve the community.    👉Community User Survey    Thank you for being an essential part of our community!    Power Platform Engagement Team  

Tuesday Tip | How to Get Community Support

It's time for another Tuesday Tip, your weekly connection with the most insightful tips and tricks that empower both newcomers and veterans in the Power Platform Community! Every Tuesday, we bring you a curated selection of the finest advice, distilled from the resources and tools in the Community. Whether you’re a seasoned member or just getting started, Tuesday Tips are the perfect compass guiding you across the dynamic landscape of the Power Platform Community.       This Week: All About Community Support Whether you're a seasoned community veteran or just getting started, you may need a bit of help from time to time! If you need to share feedback with the Community Engagement team about the community or are looking for ways we can assist you with user groups, events, or something else, Community Support is the place to start.   Community Support is part of every one of our communities, accessible to all our community members.   Within each community's Community Support page, you'll find three distinct areas, each with a different focus to help you when you need support from us most. Power Apps: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Community-Support/ct-p/pa_community_support Power Automate: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Community-Support/ct-p/mpa_community_support Power Pages: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Community-Support/ct-p/mpp_community_support Copilot Studio: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Community-Support/ct-p/pva_community-support   Community Support Form If you need more assistance, you can reach out to the Community Team via the Community support form. Choose the type of support you require and fill in the form accordingly. We will respond to you promptly.    Thank you for being an active part of our community. Your contributions make a difference!   Best Regards, The Community Management Team

Community Roundup: A Look Back at Our Last 10 Tuesday Tips

As we continue to grow and learn together, it's important to reflect on the valuable insights we've shared. For today's #TuesdayTip, we're excited to take a moment to look back at the last 10 tips we've shared in case you missed any or want to revisit them. Thanks for your incredible support for this series--we're so glad it was able to help so many of you navigate your community experience!   Getting Started in the Community An overview of everything you need to know about navigating the community on one page!  Community Links: ○ Power Apps ○ Power Automate  ○ Power Pages  ○ Copilot Studio    Community Ranks and YOU Have you ever wondered how your fellow community members ascend the ranks within our community? We explain everything about ranks and how to achieve points so you can climb up in the rankings! Community Links: ○ Power Apps ○ Power Automate  ○ Power Pages  ○ Copilot Studio    Powering Up Your Community Profile Your Community User Profile is how the Community knows you--so it's essential that it works the way you need it to! From changing your username to updating contact information, this Knowledge Base Article is your best resource for powering up your profile. Community Links: ○ Power Apps ○ Power Automate  ○ Power Pages  ○ Copilot Studio    Community Blogs--A Great Place to Start There's so much you'll discover in the Community Blogs, and we hope you'll check them out today!  Community Links: ○ Power Apps ○ Power Automate  ○ Power Pages  ○ Copilot Studio    Unlocking Community Achievements and Earning Badges Across the Communities, you'll see badges on users profile that recognize and reward their engagement and contributions. Check out some details on Community badges--and find out more in the detailed link at the end of the article! Community Links: ○ Power Apps  ○ Power Automate  ○ Power Pages  ○ Copilot Studio    Blogging in the Community Interested in blogging? Everything you need to know on writing blogs in our four communities! Get started blogging across the Power Platform communities today! Community Links: ○ Power Apps  ○ Power Automate  ○ Power Pages  ○ Copilot Studio   Subscriptions & Notifications We don't want you to miss a thing in the community! Read all about how to subscribe to sections of our forums and how to setup your notifications! Community Links: ○ Power Apps  ○ Power Automate  ○ Power Pages  ○ Copilot Studio   Getting Started with Private Messages & Macros Do you want to enhance your communication in the Community and streamline your interactions? One of the best ways to do this is to ensure you are using Private Messaging--and the ever-handy macros that are available to you as a Community member! Community Links: ○ Power Apps  ○ Power Automate  ○ Power Pages  ○ Copilot Studio   Community User Groups Learn everything about being part of, starting, or leading a User Group in the Power Platform Community. Community Links: ○ Power Apps  ○ Power Automate  ○ Power Pages  ○ Copilot Studio   Update Your Community Profile Today! Keep your community profile up to date which is essential for staying connected and engaged with the community. Community Links: ○ Power Apps  ○ Power Automate  ○ Power Pages  ○ Copilot Studio   Thank you for being an integral part of our journey.   Here's to many more Tuesday Tips as we pave the way for a brighter, more connected future! As always, watch the News & Announcements for the next set of tips, coming soon!    

Calling all User Group Leaders and Super Users! Mark Your Calendars for the next Community Ambassador Call on May 9th!

This month's Community Ambassador call is on May 9th at 9a & 3p PDT. Please keep an eye out in your private messages and Teams channels for your invitation. There are lots of exciting updates coming to the Community, and we have some exclusive opportunities to share with you! As always, we'll also review regular updates for User Groups, Super Users, and share general information about what's going on in the Community.     Be sure to register & we hope to see all of you there!

April 2024 Community Newsletter

We're pleased to share the April Community Newsletter, where we highlight the latest news, product releases, upcoming events, and the amazing work of our outstanding Community members.   If you're new to the Community, please make sure to follow the latest News & Announcements and check out the Community on LinkedIn as well! It's the best way to stay up-to-date with all the news from across Microsoft Power Platform and beyond.    COMMUNITY HIGHLIGHTS   Check out the most active community members of the last month! These hardworking members are posting regularly, answering questions, kudos, and providing top solutions in their communities. We are so thankful for each of you--keep up the great work! If you hope to see your name here next month, follow these awesome community members to see what they do!   Power AppsPower AutomateCopilot StudioPower PagesWarrenBelzDeenujialexander2523ragavanrajanLaurensMManishSolankiMattJimisonLucas001AmikcapuanodanilostephenrobertOliverRodriguestimlAndrewJManikandanSFubarmmbr1606VishnuReddy1997theMacResolutionsVishalJhaveriVictorIvanidzejsrandhawahagrua33ikExpiscornovusFGuerrero1PowerAddictgulshankhuranaANBExpiscornovusprathyooSpongYeNived_Nambiardeeksha15795apangelesGochixgrantjenkinsvasu24Mfon   LATEST NEWS   Business Applications Launch Event - On Demand In case you missed the Business Applications Launch Event, you can now catch up on all the announcements and watch the entire event on-demand inside Charles Lamanna's latest cloud blog.   This is your one stop shop for all the latest Copilot features across Power Platform and #Dynamics365, including first-hand looks at how companies such as Lenovo, Sonepar, Ford Motor Company, Omnicom and more are using these new capabilities in transformative ways. Click the image below to watch today!   Power Platform Community Conference 2024 is here! It's time to look forward to the next installment of the Power Platform Community Conference, which takes place this year on 18-20th September 2024 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas!   Come and be inspired by Microsoft senior thought leaders and the engineers behind the #PowerPlatform, with Charles Lamanna, Sangya Singh, Ryan Cunningham, Kim Manis, Nirav Shah, Omar Aftab and Leon Welicki already confirmed to speak. You'll also be able to learn from industry experts and Microsoft MVPs who are dedicated to bridging the gap between humanity and technology. These include the likes of Lisa Crosbie, Victor Dantas, Kristine Kolodziejski, David Yack, Daniel Christian, Miguel Félix, and Mats Necker, with many more to be announced over the coming weeks.   Click here to watch our brand-new sizzle reel for #PPCC24 or click the image below to find out more about registration. See you in Vegas!       Power Up Program Announces New Video-Based Learning Hear from Principal Program Manager, Dimpi Gandhi, to discover the latest enhancements to the Microsoft #PowerUpProgram. These include a new accelerated video-based curriculum crafted with the expertise of Microsoft MVPs, Rory Neary and Charlie Phipps-Bennett. If you’d like to hear what’s coming next, click the image below to find out more!   UPCOMING EVENTS Microsoft Build - Seattle and Online - 21-23rd May 2024 Taking place on 21-23rd May 2024 both online and in Seattle, this is the perfect event to learn more about low code development, creating copilots, cloud platforms, and so much more to help you unleash the power of AI.   There's a serious wealth of talent speaking across the three days, including the likes of Satya Nadella, Amanda K. Silver, Scott Guthrie, Sarah Bird, Charles Lamanna, Miti J., Kevin Scott, Asha Sharma, Rajesh Jha, Arun Ulag, Clay Wesener, and many more.   And don't worry if you can't make it to Seattle, the event will be online and totally free to join. Click the image below to register for #MSBuild today!   European Collab Summit - Germany - 14-16th May 2024 The clock is counting down to the amazing European Collaboration Summit, which takes place in Germany May 14-16, 2024. #CollabSummit2024 is designed to provide cutting-edge insights and best practices into Power Platform, Microsoft 365, Teams, Viva, and so much more. There's a whole host of experts speakers across the three-day event, including the likes of Vesa Juvonen, Laurie Pottmeyer, Dan Holme, Mark Kashman, Dona Sarkar, Gavin Barron, Emily Mancini, Martina Grom, Ahmad Najjar, Liz Sundet, Nikki Chapple, Sara Fennah, Seb Matthews, Tobias Martin, Zoe Wilson, Fabian Williams, and many more.   Click the image below to find out more about #ECS2024 and register today!     Microsoft 365 & Power Platform Conference - Seattle - 3-7th June If you're looking to turbo boost your Power Platform skills this year, why not take a look at everything TechCon365 has to offer at the Seattle Convention Center on June 3-7, 2024.   This amazing 3-day conference (with 2 optional days of workshops) offers over 130 sessions across multiple tracks, alongside 25 workshops presented by Power Platform, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Teams, Viva, Azure, Copilot and AI experts. There's a great array of speakers, including the likes of Nirav Shah, Naomi Moneypenny, Jason Himmelstein, Heather Cook, Karuana Gatimu, Mark Kashman, Michelle Gilbert, Taiki Y., Kristi K., Nate Chamberlain, Julie Koesmarno, Daniel Glenn, Sarah Haase, Marc Windle, Amit Vasu, Joanne C Klein, Agnes Molnar, and many more.   Click the image below for more #Techcon365 intel and register today!     For more events, click the image below to visit the Microsoft Community Days website.      

Tuesday Tip | Update Your Community Profile Today!

It's time for another TUESDAY TIPS, your weekly connection with the most insightful tips and tricks that empower both newcomers and veterans in the Power Platform Community! Every Tuesday, we bring you a curated selection of the finest advice, distilled from the resources and tools in the Community. Whether you’re a seasoned member or just getting started, Tuesday Tips are the perfect compass guiding you across the dynamic landscape of the Power Platform Community.   We're excited to announce that updating your community profile has never been easier! Keeping your profile up to date is essential for staying connected and engaged with the community.   Check out the following Support Articles with these topics: Accessing Your Community ProfileRetrieving Your Profile URLUpdating Your Community Profile Time ZoneChanging Your Community Profile Picture (Avatar)Setting Your Date Display Preferences Click on your community link for more information: Power Apps, Power Automate, Power Pages, Copilot Studio   Thank you for being an active part of our community. Your contributions make a difference! Best Regards, The Community Management Team

Users online (3,392)