cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Reply
emfuentes27
Continued Contributor
Continued Contributor

Power Automate/PowerApps - Licensing question

I have a question that may be silly, but I think the licensing "structure" of Power Automate/PowerApps is kind of confusing. I'm building a PowerApps app that triggers a Flow that generates a Word Document from a template, and everything works just fine on my end. But, once I deployed the app, users can't use it, and they get some kind of licensing message.

PowerApps.jpg

 

This is my issue/question: If I create an app that triggers a Flow with premium connectors (e.g. Word), does that mean that anyone that needs to use the app/flow, needs to have the license to use that premium connector as well? If I remove the Flow from the PowerApps app, users can access the app without any issues.

 

Thanks in advance.

1 ACCEPTED SOLUTION

Accepted Solutions

The only way around it would be to use an automated trigger on something like SharePoint as a buffer.

1) Power app saves content to a specific list in SharePoint

2) Flow with an automated trigger fires and creates the file (this runs in the Maker's context since its an automated trigger.

3) Save the created file to a document library or email it to someone.

 

That's the only workaround that I know of.  Many of us complained when MS made the Create Document from Template a Premium action in Word Online, since Word Online itself is part of the Office 365 license.  But that is the reality and I don't think its going to change.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------
If I have answered your question, please mark your post as Solved.
If you like my response, please give it a Thumbs Up.

View solution in original post

9 REPLIES 9
Pstork1
Multi Super User
Multi Super User

Flows that are triggered manually from a Power App run in the context of the person who triggers them. So if the flow has a Premium connector (like word online templates) then the user must have a premium license.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------
If I have answered your question, please mark your post as Solved.
If you like my response, please give it a Thumbs Up.
emfuentes27
Continued Contributor
Continued Contributor

Thanks @Pstork1 . Is there any way around this, because it doesn't make any sense MS sets the licensing structure this way? About 200 users will potentially be using this app; there is no way my organization will pay for so many licenses, just to create Word documents.

 

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's the word application that is the premium function, here.

 

Microsoft is wholly right to try to enforce their licencing structure for those premium functions. But there are options.

 

I'll focus on one of those:

Are you absolutely sure that this information must be in a word document?

 

If you think about what you're dealing with here, it's just data. So why not store the data in a SharePoint list, and create some nice, elegant SharePoint list views, and wrap those views in some nice SharePoint pages?

 

This way, when ever anyone wishes to see the data, they can view it on their phone/pc/whatever, in the SharePoint site.

 

Equally, there's a great many free Word actions from third party connectors, but they have their limits. Plus you have to accept 3rd parties potentially seeing your data.

 

Similarly, is your Power App is simply a form? If so, you could slim down reliance on something complicated like that, and use Forms instead to gather the data. That doesn't inherently solve the premium word action, issue, but it offers a different way to handle the input.

The only way around it would be to use an automated trigger on something like SharePoint as a buffer.

1) Power app saves content to a specific list in SharePoint

2) Flow with an automated trigger fires and creates the file (this runs in the Maker's context since its an automated trigger.

3) Save the created file to a document library or email it to someone.

 

That's the only workaround that I know of.  Many of us complained when MS made the Create Document from Template a Premium action in Word Online, since Word Online itself is part of the Office 365 license.  But that is the reality and I don't think its going to change.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------
If I have answered your question, please mark your post as Solved.
If you like my response, please give it a Thumbs Up.

Thank you @eliotcole. Actually the data to be used is coming from SharePoint, and l ready created..."some nice, elegant SharePoint list views, and wrap those views in some nice SharePoint pages" as you said, for internal use. Unfortunately that doesn't work on my scenario. This Word documents will be shared with folks outside my organization, and they don't and won't have access to out SharePoint site.

Microsoft might have all the wholly right to charge whatever they want for their product, but if the user already paid for Office, and a million other licenses, it doesn't make sense to charge even more for those same users to be able to populate a Word template using flow. It is way too greedy, and the only thing they will achieve is that fewer people will use the feature.

3rd party is not an option.

Form is not an option either, starting with the fact that the form I created with PowerApps has more than 30 fields. Form is not very customizable, which means that being unable to create columns, and having several fields side by side, the form with that many fields will be a mile long. And as you mentioned, this won't solve the Word issue.

So, I recall from somewhere there's the option to save pages as SharePoint Pages as PDFs, but I could be very wrong, there.

 

There's also this particular Graph endpoing which I've not managed to figure out, yet.

 

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/graph/api/driveitem-get-content-format?view=graph-rest-1.0&tabs=htt...

 

I swear that something manageable should be an option from there. 😩

 

I'm invested with you in this, because I too think that the new (2-3 years old now) licencing is a *joke* which only hurts small businesses the most.

 

I mean, my main reason for saying what I did was basically to say that surely we're at a point where physical documents for reports (or whatever) are not a requirement. Looking at the data on a SharePoint page (or list view) should be enough.

 

But, yeah, I used to (before 'online') have my own 'printPage' button for all the report pages or list views that I made which would send a copy to the printer and/or export the data to word/excel. However that level of customisation has been mired into the realms of true coding now, and SPFX. 😑 I mean, I'm learning SPFX (slowly!) but I shouldn't have to in order to make an elegant report that looks as good as an SP page.

Incidentally, if you can format an excel sheet to look good enough from input to a table, then you could use the Drive Convert file (preview) action to make it into a PDF, or maybe even something stranger. 🙂

 

I've just managed to grab some data from actual SharePoint pages, and print them into PDF.

 

Now I'm not getting live data, only static, and it's rubbish ... but it's something.

Thanks @eliotcole , that's a good suggestion. I'm surprised MS didn't make this feature a premium connector also. I'll give it a try.

Don't give them any ideas!!!!!

Helpful resources

Announcements

Back to Basics: Tuesday Tip #1: All About YOUR Community Account

We are excited to kick off our new #TuesdayTIps series, "Back to Basics." This weekly series is our way of helping the amazing members of our community--both new members and seasoned veterans--learn and grow in how to best engage in the community! Each Tuesday, we will feature new areas of content that will help you best understand the community--from ranking and badges to profile avatars, from Super Users to blogging in the community. Our hope is that this information will help each of our community members grow in their experience with Power Platform, with the community, and with each other!     This Week's Tips: Account Support: Changing Passwords, Changing Email Addresses or Usernames, "Need Admin Approval," Etc.Wondering how to get support for your community account? Check out the details on these common questions and more. Just follow the link below for articles that explain it all.Community Account Support - Power Platform Community (microsoft.com)   All About GDPR: How It Affects Closing Your Community Account (And Why You Should Think Twice Before You Do)GDPR, the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), took effect May 25th 2018. A European privacy law, GDPR imposes new rules on companies and other organizations offering goods and services to people in the European Union (EU), or that collect and analyze data tied to EU residents. GDPR applies no matter where you are located, and it affects what happens when you decide to close your account. Read the details here:All About GDPR - Power Platform Community (microsoft.com)   Getting to Know You: Setting Up Your Community Profile, Customizing Your Profile, and More.Your community profile helps other members of the community get to know you as you begin to engage and interact. Your profile is a mirror of your activity in the community. Find out how to set it up, change your avatar, adjust your time zone, and more. Click on the link below to find out how:Community Profile, Time Zone, Picture (Avatar) & D... - Power Platform Community (microsoft.com)   That's it for this week. Tune in for more Tuesday Tips next Tuesday and join the community as we get "Back to Basics."

Announcing the MPPC's Got Power Talent Show at #MPPC23

Are you attending the Microsoft Power Platform Conference 2023 in Las Vegas? If so, we invite you to join us for the MPPC's Got Power Talent Show!      Our talent show is more than a show—it's a grand celebration of connection, inspiration, and shared journeys. Through stories, skills, and collective experiences, we come together to uplift, inspire, and revel in the magic of our community's diverse talents. This year, our talent event promises to be an unforgettable experience, echoing louder and brighter than anything you've seen before.    We're casting a wider net with three captivating categories:  Demo Technical Solutions: Show us your Power Platform innovations, be it apps, flows, chatbots, websites or dashboards... Storytelling: Share tales of your journey with Power Platform. Hidden Talents: Unveil your creative side—be it dancing, singing, rapping, poetry, or comedy. Let your talent shine!    Got That Special Spark? A Story That Demands to Be Heard? Your moment is now!  Sign up to Showcase Your Brilliance: https://aka.ms/MPPCGotPowerSignUp  Deadline for submissions: Thursday, Sept 28th    How It Works:  Submit this form to sign up: https://aka.ms/MPPCGotPowerSignUp  We'll contact you if you're selected. Get ready to be onstage!  The Spotlight is Yours: Each participant has 3-5 minutes to shine, with insightful commentary from our panel of judges. We’re not just giving you a stage; we’re handing you the platform to make your mark.     Be the Story We Tell: Your talents and narratives will not just entertain but inspire, serving as the bedrock for our community’s future stories and successes.    Celebration, Surprises, and Connections: As the curtain falls, the excitement continues! Await surprise awards and seize the chance to mingle with industry experts, Microsoft Power Platform leaders, and community luminaries. It's not just a show; it's an opportunity to forge connections and celebrate shared successes.    Event Details:  Date and Time: Wed Oct 4th, 6:30-9:00PM   Location: MPPC23 at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV, USA  

September User Group Success Story: Reading Dynamics 365 & Power Platform User Group

The Reading Dynamics 365 and Power Platform User Group is a community-driven initiative that started in September 2022. It has quickly earned recognition for its enthusiastic leadership and resilience in the face of challenges. With a focus on promoting learning and networking among professionals in the Dynamics 365 and Power Platform ecosystem, the group has grown steadily and gained a reputation for its commitment to its members!   The group, which had its inaugural event in January 2023 at the Microsoft UK Headquarters in Reading, has since organized three successful gatherings, including a recent social lunch. They maintain a regular schedule of four events per year, each attended by an average of 20-25 enthusiastic participants who enjoy engaging talks and, of course, pizza.   The Reading User Group's presence is primarily spread through LinkedIn and Meetup, with the support of the wider community. This thriving community is managed by a dedicated team consisting of Fraser Dear, Tim Leung, and Andrew Bibby, who serves as the main point of contact for the UK Dynamics 365 and Power Platform User Groups.   Andrew Bibby, an active figure in the Dynamics 365 and Power Platform community, nominated this group due to his admiration for the Reading UK User Group's efforts. He emphasized their remarkable enthusiasm and success in running the group, noting that they navigated challenges such as finding venues with resilience and smiles on their faces. Despite being a relatively new group with 20-30 members, they have managed to achieve high attendance at their meetings.   The group's journey began when Fraser Dear moved to the Reading area and realized the absence of a user group catering to professionals in the Dynamics 365 and Power Platform space. He reached out to Andrew, who provided valuable guidance and support, allowing the Reading User Group to officially join the UK Dynamics 365 and Power Platform User Groups community.   One of the group's notable achievements was overcoming the challenge of finding a suitable venue. Initially, their "home" was the Microsoft UK HQ in Reading. However, due to office closures, they had to seek a new location with limited time. Fortunately, a connection with Stephanie Stacey from Microsoft led them to Reading College and its Institute of Technology. The college generously offered them event space and support, forging a mutually beneficial partnership where the group promotes the Institute and encourages its members to support the next generation of IT professionals.   With the dedication of its leadership team, the Reading Dynamics 365 and Power Platform User Group is poised to continue growing and thriving! Their story exemplifies the power of community-driven initiatives and the positive impact they can have on professional development and networking in the tech industry. As they move forward with their upcoming events and collaborations with Reading College, the group is likely to remain a valuable resource for professionals in the Reading area and beyond.  

A Celebration of What We've Achieved--And Announcing Our Winners

As the sun sets on the #SummerofSolutions Challenge, it's time to reflect and celebrate! The journey we embarked upon together was not just about providing answers – it was about fostering a sense of community, encouraging collaboration, and unlocking the true potential of the Power Platform tools.   From the initial announcement to the final week's push, the Summer of Solutions Challenge has been a whirlwind of engagement and growth. It was a call to action for every member of our Power Platform community, urging them to contribute their expertise, engage in discussions, and elevate collective knowledge across the community as part of the low-code revolution.   Reflecting on the Impact As the challenge ends, it's essential to reflect on the impact it’s had across our Power Platform communities: Community Resilience: The challenge demonstrated the resilience of our community. Despite geographical distances and diverse backgrounds, we came together to contribute, learn, and collaborate. This resilience is the cornerstone of our collective strength.Diverse Expertise: The solutions shared during the challenge underscore the incredible expertise within our community. From intricate technical insights to creative problem-solving, our members showcased their diverse skill sets, enhancing our community's depth.Shared Learning: Solutions spurred shared learning. They provided opportunities for members to grasp new concepts, expand their horizons, and uncover the Power Platform tools' untapped potential. This learning ripple effect will continue to shape our growth. Empowerment: Solutions empowered community members. They validated their knowledge, boosted their confidence, and highlighted their contributions. Each solution shared was a step towards personal and communal empowerment. We are proud and thankful as we conclude the Summer of Solutions Challenge. The challenge showed the potential of teamwork, the benefit of knowledge-sharing, and the resilience of our Power Platform community. The solutions offered by each member are more than just answers; they are the expression of our shared commitment to innovation, growth, and progress!     Drum roll, Please... And now, without further ado, it's time to announce the winners who have risen above the rest in the Summer of Solutions Challenge!   These are the top community users and Super Users who have not only earned recognition but have become beacons of inspiration for us all.   Power Apps Community:  Community User Winner: @SpongYe Super User Winner: Pending Acceptance Power Automate Community:  Community User Winner: @trice602 Super User Winner: @Expiscornovus  Power Virtual Agents Community: Community User Winner: Pending AcceptanceSuper User: Pending Acceptance Power Pages Community: Community User Winner: @OOlashyn Super User Winner: @ChristianAbata   We are also pleased to announced two additional tickets that we are awarding to the Overall Top Solution providers in the following communities:    Power Apps: @LaurensM   Power Automate: @ManishSolanki    Thank you for making this challenge a resounding success. Your participation has reaffirmed the strength of our community and the boundless potential that lies within each of us. Let's keep the spirit of collaboration alive as we continue on this incredible journey in Power Platform together.Winners, we will see you in Vegas! Every other amazing solutions superstar, we will see you in the Community!Congratulations, everyone!

September featured user group leader

 Ayonija Shatakshi, a seasoned senior consultant at Improving, Ohio, is a passionate advocate for M365, SharePoint, Power Platform, and Azure, recognizing how they synergize to deliver top-notch solutions. Recently, we asked Ayonija to share her journey as a user group leader, shedding light on her motivations and the benefits she's reaped from her community involvement.      Ayonija embarked on her role as a user group leader in December 2022, driven by a desire to explore how the community leveraged various Power Platform components. When she couldn't find a suitable local group, she decided to create one herself!    Speaking about the impact of the community on her professional and personal growth, Ayonija says, "It's fascinating to witness how everyone navigates the world of Power Platform, dealing with license constraints and keeping up with new features. There's so much to learn from their experiences.:        Her favorite aspect of being a user group leader is the opportunity to network and engage in face-to-face discussions with fellow enthusiasts, fostering deeper connections within the community. Offering advice to budding user group leaders, Ayonija emphasized the importance of communication and consistency, two pillars that sustain any successful community initiative.      When asked why she encourages others to become user group leaders, Ayonija said, "Being part of a user group is one of the best ways to connect with experienced professionals in the same field and glean knowledge from them. If there isn't a local group, consider starting one; you'll soon find like-minded individuals."      Her highlight from the past year as a user group leader was witnessing consistent growth within the group, a testament to the thriving community she has nurtured. Advocating for user group participation, Ayonija stated, "It's the fastest route to learning from the community, gaining insights, and staying updated on industry trends."   Check out her group: Cleveland Power Platform User Group

An MPPC23 Invitation from Charles Lamanna, CVP of Microsoft Business Applications & Platform

Hear from Corporate Vice President for Microsoft Business Applications & Platform, Charles Lamanna, as he looks ahead to the second annual Microsoft Power Platform Conference from October 3rd-5th 2023 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.Have you got your tickets yet? Register today at www.powerplatformconf.com  

Users online (3,018)