cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Reply
Anonymous
Not applicable

PowerApps Plan Change 2/1/2019

February 1, 2019 it states that the license structure will change for PowerApps and Flow.

I am just starting to develop in PowerApps and Flow against Microsoft SharePoint Online lists.  Currently I am using PowerApps and Flow for free.  I am using Flow as a recurrence to SharePoint Online when the day changes with the recurrence.  Also I am using Flow when a record is added to SharePoint Online with the item add and/or change.

I realise that when the Flow goes higher than 750 runs/month, I need to change to Flow Plan 1. Can I still use PowerApps and Flow free licenses if I am only going against SharePoint Online lists?  My major concern is the licensing for PowerApps.

In addition, if I want to start pulling data from SQL Server, is that a new license?  Also, is the higher license for the Developer or everyone who uses the data?

Thanks so much for your help.

1 ACCEPTED SOLUTION

Accepted Solutions

Hi @rc

Thanks for clarifying this in a more official capacity. So to summarise how this would work for @Anonymous

  • Reading SharePoint Lists with PowerApps and Flow will still be free.
  • Connecting to SQL Server Azure will be free, because that uses a Standard Connector.
  • Connecting to on-premises SQL Server will require a 'Plan 1' license or higher, due to the use of the on-premises gateway.

View solution in original post

13 REPLIES 13
timl
Super User
Super User

For the benefit of anyone else reading this, I've pasted the licensing changes below.


Could you clarify how you're using PowerApps for free? Are you using the free 'Community Plan', or are you accessing 'Microsoft SharePoint Online' through an Office 365 plan and using the PowerApps license that's associated with that? Also, are you thinking of using SQL Server Azure, or an on-premise instance of SQL Server via the gateway? The reason I ask is because the document states a definite change to the on-premises data gateway licensing.


I hope that someone from Microsoft can answer this question because I think it would be best for you to receive a more official response, given the commercial nature of your question.  
-------------------------

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Office-Retirement-Blog/Updates-to-Microsoft-Flow-and-PowerApp...


We are introducing some changes to simplify the distinction between the version of PowerApps and Flow for Office 365 plans and PowerApps and Flow Plans 1 and 2 by making the following changes:
Effective February 1, 2019, the following capabilities will only be available with PowerApps and Flow Plan 1 and Plan 2:


* Creation and publication of custom connectors in PowerApps and Microsoft Flow
* HTTP custom actions integrated into Flow outside SharePoint and OneDrive
* Integration of on-premises data through the on-premises  data gateway


Customers with active users of these features will get an automatic extension until January 31, 2020 or the expiration of their existing Office 365 subscription term (whichever is longer).   


Otherwise, if you have no active usage but still would like to use the features listed above, you can submit a ticket to request an extension via Microsoft Support before January 31, 2019 to ensure uninterrupted service.  Extensions will run for twelve months or the expiration of your existing Office 365 subscription term (whichever is longer). Your ability to request an extension will expire on April 30, 2019.  After that, unless previously extended, use of these services will require PowerApps and Flow Plan 1 or Plan 2. 

Where is this new licensing scheme best explained? Currently, plan 1 and 2 already have those characteristics. It's not understood

Anonymous
Not applicable

It is confusing.  I am using PowerApps and Flow with my Office 365 license.  Currently I am reading SharePoint Lists with PowerApps and Flow. Will that still be free?

I want to go against SQL Server databases.  That already has a connector.  Will that also be free because it is not a custom connector?

Thanks.

 

rc
Power Apps
Power Apps

Thanks for the questions -- happy to help clarify. The overall structure of PowerApps licensing is not changing. You will are still able to use the licenses included with Office 365 to build apps and custom forms against SharePoint Online and other standard data sources; the core value of the license included in Office 365 is to extend Office 365.

 

Also, as is true today, developers do not require a higher license. PowerApps users require a license to use apps; the level of license goes up as the sophistication of the apps goes up.

 

The changes mentioned in the message center post are around three specific features and intended to help clarify the above. From 2/1/19, these three features will require a P1 license or higher to consume apps that use:

1. On-premesis data gateways

2. Custom connectors

3. HTTP custom actions integrated into Flow

 

These changes do not affect the majority of PowerApps users today, and anyone who is currently using them without a P1 or higher license will automatically be able to continue through January 31, 2020 or the expiration of their existing Office 365 subscription term (whichever is longer).  More details here: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Office-Retirement-Blog/Updates-to-Microsoft-Flow-and-PowerApp...

 

Hi @rc

Thanks for clarifying this in a more official capacity. So to summarise how this would work for @Anonymous

  • Reading SharePoint Lists with PowerApps and Flow will still be free.
  • Connecting to SQL Server Azure will be free, because that uses a Standard Connector.
  • Connecting to on-premises SQL Server will require a 'Plan 1' license or higher, due to the use of the on-premises gateway.

I was wondering if anyone can clarify how this affects custom connectors (used to trigger Azure functions). We are planning to use this company wide.

 

The announcement isn't totally clear on if the higher plan is only needed to create and publish the connector, or if it's also needed by end users consuming the connector. The line states:

 

  • Creation and publication of custom connectors in PowerApps and Microsoft Flow

 

Any clarification on this would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks

Andy

PaulD1
Community Champion
Community Champion

Some more detail around '3. HTTP custom actions integrated into Flow' would be appreciated.

Does this mean that any use of the HTTP action requires Plan 1? Many of Microsoft's own connectors (e.g. for Cognitive Services) don't expose the full functionality of the various services, thus forcing the use of the HTTP action instead.

Some examples include: Using the Computer Vision OCR service to read handwritten text and the Face API to return emotion data. The provided connectors do not expose these options and an so an HTTP request has to be used instead.

Given that the need for custom connectors and HTTP custom actions is to plug gaps in the platform (understandable given how new it is), charging extra to use the features does feel like 'adding insult to injury'.

Anonymous
Not applicable

What if we have a Enterprise 3 (E3) license? Does that cover both plans or no?

Thanks for the followup questions everyone (and the patience over the holidays)--

 

@timl @Anonymous that summary is correct; reading data from SharePoint and connecting to any standard connector remains included in the PowerApps licenses for Office 365; there is no change here.

 

@andygjones users of apps that have custom connectors will require the P1 license. The main blog post added a clarifying comment on this in December, quoted here (see first bullet specifically):

December 2018 Update

In response to questions we've received, here are some additional clarifications:

 

  • Although makers do not require a specific license to create PowerApps and Flows that use custom or premium connectors, users of Apps and Flows that are based on custom or premium connectors require Plan 1 or Plan 2 licenses. 
  • Office 365 users and makers do not require elevated licensing to access Office data from the Graph through Flow.  We have key scenarios for Graph exposed to Flow and PowerApps users through our standard Graph connectors. These are available to all Office 365 users.  Advanced developers who want to connect to Graph via a raw HTTP call have been able to do so since September 2017 with the premium HTTP with Azure AD connector. This has been a premium connector since its release and we have no plans to change this requirement at this time.
  • Office 365 users and makers do not require any additional licensing to access on premises data from Power BI through the on premises data gateway; additional licensing is only required for users using PowerApps and Flow against on premises data.
  • Office 365-licensed users and makers do not require any additional licensing to use HTTP custom actions inside the SharePoint connector.

 

@PaulD1 some clarifying content in the snippet above. Using the HTTP action card offered by the SharePoint connector (see screenshot) does not require the P1 license as it's within SharePoint.
image.png

You're right that using the HTTP action card to access other data sources like Cognitive Services will require P1 going forward, however the spirit of this move is not to monetize gaps in functionality that should be included in Office. Any gaps in the current connectors, especially in Office 365 data sources, should be resolved in the connectors themselves so that the broadest possible set of users can take advantage of them without having to use the more advanced HTTP triggers. This is part of why there is a long extension to current users of these features to make sure we can properly close gaps.

 

@Anonymous E3 plans include "PowerApps for Office 365" capabilities, outlined in the first column of our pricing page here: https://powerapps.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/ . The intent of this plan to be able to customize and extend Office 365. Users who want to take advantage of premium capabilities (e.g., the custom connectors or on-prem gateways discussed here) will need a P1 or higher plan.

 

Helpful resources

Announcements

April 4th Copilot Studio Coffee Chat | Recording Now Available

Did you miss the Copilot Studio Coffee Chat on April 4th? This exciting and informative session with Dewain Robinson and Gary Pretty is now available to watch in our Community Galleries!   This AMA discussed how Copilot Studio is using the conversational AI-powered technology to aid and assist in the building of chatbots. Dewain is a Principal Program Manager with Copilot Studio. Gary is a Principal Program Manager with Copilot Studio and Conversational AI. Both of them had great insights to share with the community and answered some very interesting questions!     As part of our ongoing Coffee Chat AMA series, this engaging session gives the Community the unique opportunity to learn more about the latest Power Platform Copilot plans, where we’ll focus, and gain insight into upcoming features. We’re looking forward to hearing from the community at the next AMA, so hang on to your questions!   Watch the recording in the Gallery today: April 4th Copilot Studio Coffee Chat AMA

Tuesday Tip: Subscriptions & Notifications

TUESDAY TIPS are our way of communicating helpful things we've learned or shared that have helped members of the Community. Whether you're just getting started or you're a seasoned pro, Tuesday Tips will help you know where to go, what to look for, and navigate your way through the ever-growing--and ever-changing--world of the Power Platform Community! We cover basics about the Community, provide a few "insider tips" to make your experience even better, and share best practices gleaned from our most active community members and Super Users.   With so many new Community members joining us each week, we'll also review a few of our "best practices" so you know just "how" the Community works, so make sure to watch the News & Announcements each week for the latest and greatest Tuesday Tips!   This Week: All About Subscriptions & Notifications We don't want you to a miss a thing in the Community! The best way to make sure you know what's going on in the News & Announcements, to blogs you follow, or forums and galleries you're interested in is to subscribe! These subscriptions ensure you receive automated messages about the most recent posts and replies. Even better, there are multiple ways you can subscribe to content and boards in the community! (Please note: if you have created an AAD (Azure Active Directory) account you won't be able to receive e-mail notifications.)   Subscribing to a Category  When you're looking at the entire category, select from the Options drop down and choose Subscribe.     You can then choose to Subscribe to all of the boards or select only the boards you want to receive notifications. When you're satisfied with your choices, click Save.   Subscribing to a Topic You can also subscribe to a single topic by clicking Subscribe from the Options drop down menu, while you are viewing the topic or in the General board overview, respectively.     Subscribing to a Label Find the labels at the bottom left of a post.From a particular post with a label, click on the label to filter by that label. This opens a window containing a list of posts with the label you have selected. Click Subscribe.           Note: You can only subscribe to a label at the board level. If you subscribe to a label named 'Copilot' at board #1, it will not automatically subscribe you to an identically named label at board #2. You will have to subscribe twice, once at each board.   Bookmarks Just like you can subscribe to topics and categories, you can also bookmark topics and boards from the same menus! Simply go to the Topic Options drop down menu to bookmark a topic or the Options drop down to bookmark a board. The difference between subscribing and bookmarking is that subscriptions provide you with notifications, whereas bookmarks provide you a static way of easily accessing your favorite boards from the My subscriptions area.   Managing & Viewing Your Subscriptions & Bookmarks To manage your subscriptions, click on your avatar and select My subscriptions from the drop-down menu.     From the Subscriptions & Notifications tab, you can manage your subscriptions, including your e-mail subscription options, your bookmarks, your notification settings, and your email notification format.     You can see a list of all your subscriptions and bookmarks and choose which ones to delete, either individually or in bulk, by checking multiple boxes.     A Note on Following Friends on Mobile Adding someone as a friend or selecting Follow in the mobile view does not allow you to subscribe to their activity feed. You will merely be able to see your friends’ biography, other personal information, or online status, and send messages more quickly by choosing who to send the message to from a list, as opposed to having to search by username.

Monthly Community User Group Update | April 2024

The monthly Community User Group Update is your resource for discovering User Group meetings and events happening around the world (and virtually), welcoming new User Groups to our Community, and more! Our amazing Community User Groups are an important part of the Power Platform Community, with more than 700 Community User Groups worldwide, we know they're a great way to engage personally, while giving our members a place to learn and grow together.   This month, we welcome 3 new User Groups in India, Wales, and Germany, and feature 8 User Group Events across Power Platform and Dynamics 365. Find out more below. New Power Platform User Groups   Power Platform Innovators (India) About: Our aim is to foster a collaborative environment where we can share upcoming Power Platform events, best practices, and valuable content related to Power Platform. Whether you’re a seasoned expert or a newcomer looking to learn, this group is for you. Let’s empower each other to achieve more with Power Platform. Join us in shaping the future of digital transformation!   Power Platform User Group (Wales) About: A Power Platform User Group in Wales (predominantly based in Cardiff but will look to hold sessions around Wales) to establish a community to share learnings and experience in all parts of the platform.   Power Platform User Group (Hannover) About: This group is for anyone who works with the services of Microsoft Power Platform or wants to learn more about it and no-code/low-code. And, of course, Microsoft Copilot application in the Power Platform.   New Dynamics365 User Groups   Ellucian CRM Recruit UK (United Kingdom) About: A group for United Kingdom universities using Ellucian CRM Recruit to manage their admissions process, to share good practice and resolve issues.    Business Central Mexico (Mexico City) About:  A place to find documentation, learning resources, and events focused on user needs in Mexico. We meet to discuss and answer questions about the current features in the standard localization that Microsoft provides, and what you only find in third-party locations. In addition, we focus on what's planned for new standard versions, recent legislation requirements, and more. Let's work together to drive request votes for Microsoft for features that aren't currently found—but are indispensable.   Dynamics 365 F&O User Group (Dublin) About: The Dynamics 365 F&O User Group - Ireland Chapter meets up in person at least twice yearly in One Microsoft Place Dublin for users to have the opportunity to have conversations on mutual topics, find out what’s new and on the Dynamics 365 FinOps Product Roadmap, get insights from customer and partner experiences, and access to Microsoft subject matter expertise.  Upcoming Power Platform Events    PAK Time (Power Apps Kwentuhan) 2024 #6 (Phillipines, Online) This is a continuation session of Custom API. Sir Jun Miano will be sharing firsthand experience on setting up custom API and best practices. (April 6, 2024)       Power Apps: Creating business applications rapidly (Sydney) At this event, learn how to choose the right app on Power Platform, creating a business application in an hour, and tips for using Copilot AI. While we recommend attending all 6 events in the series, each session is independent of one another, and you can join the topics of your interest. Think of it as a “Hop On, Hop Off” bus! Participation is free, but you need a personal computer (laptop) and we provide the rest. We look forward to seeing you there! (April 11, 2024)     April 2024 Cleveland Power Platform User Group (Independence, Ohio) Kickoff the meeting with networking, and then our speaker will share how to create responsive and intuitive Canvas Apps using features like Variables, Search and Filtering. And how PowerFx rich functions and expressions makes configuring those functionalities easier. Bring ideas to discuss and engage with other community members! (April 16, 2024)     Dynamics 365 and Power Platform 2024 Wave 1 Release (NYC, Online) This session features Aric Levin, Microsoft Business Applications MVP and Technical Architect at Avanade and Mihir Shah, Global CoC Leader of Microsoft Managed Services at IBM. We will cover some of the new features and enhancements related to the Power Platform, Dataverse, Maker Portal, Unified Interface and the Microsoft First Party Apps (Microsoft Dynamics 365) that were announced in the Microsoft Dynamics 365 and Power Platform 2024 Release Wave 1 Plan. (April 17, 2024)     Let’s Explore Copilot Studio Series: Bot Skills to Extend Your Copilots (Makati National Capital Reg... Join us for the second installment of our Let's Explore Copilot Studio Series, focusing on Bot Skills. Learn how to enhance your copilot's abilities to automate tasks within specific topics, from booking appointments to sending emails and managing tasks. Discover the power of Skills in expanding conversational capabilities. (April 30, 2024)   Upcoming Dynamics365 Events    Leveraging Customer Managed Keys (CMK) in Dynamics 365 (Noida, Uttar Pradesh, Online) This month's featured topic: Leveraging Customer Managed Keys (CMK) in Dynamics 365, with special guest Nitin Jain from Microsoft. We are excited and thankful to him for doing this session. Join us for this online session, which should be helpful to all Dynamics 365 developers, Technical Architects and Enterprise architects who are implementing Dynamics 365 and want to have more control on the security of their data over Microsoft Managed Keys. (April 11, 2024)     Stockholm D365 User Group April Meeting (Stockholm) This is a Swedish user group for D365 Finance and Operations, AX2012, CRM, CE, Project Operations, and Power BI.  (April 17, 2024)         Transportation Management in D365 F&SCM Q&A Session (Toronto, Online) Calling all Toronto UG members and beyond! Join us for an engaging and informative one-hour Q&A session, exclusively focused on Transportation Management System (TMS) within Dynamics 365 F&SCM. Whether you’re a seasoned professional or just curious about TMS, this event is for you. Bring your questions! (April 26, 2024)   Leaders, Create Your Events!    Leaders of existing User Groups, don’t forget to create your events within the Community platform. By doing so, you’ll enable us to share them in future posts and newsletters. Let’s spread the word and make these gatherings even more impactful! Stay tuned for more updates, inspiring stories, and collaborative opportunities from and for our Community User Groups.   P.S. Have an event or success story to share? Reach out to us – we’d love to feature you. Just leave a comment or send a PM here in the Community!

Exclusive LIVE Community Event: Power Apps Copilot Coffee Chat with Copilot Studio Product Team

We have closed kudos on this post at this time. Thank you to everyone who kudo'ed their RSVP--your invitations are coming soon!  Miss the window to RSVP? Don't worry--you can catch the recording of the meeting this week in the Community.  Details coming soon!   *****   It's time for the SECOND Power Apps Copilot Coffee Chat featuring the Copilot Studio product team, which will be held LIVE on April 3, 2024 at 9:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time (PDT).     This is an incredible opportunity to connect with members of the Copilot Studio product team and ask them anything about Copilot Studio. We'll share our special guests with you shortly--but we want to encourage to mark your calendars now because you will not want to miss the conversation.   This live event will give you the unique opportunity to learn more about Copilot Studio plans, where we’ll focus, and get insight into upcoming features. We’re looking forward to hearing from the community, so bring your questions!   TO GET ACCESS TO THIS EXCLUSIVE AMA: Kudo this post to reserve your spot! Reserve your spot now by kudoing this post.  Reservations will be prioritized on when your kudo for the post comes through, so don't wait! Click that "kudo button" today.   Invitations will be sent on April 2nd.Users posting Kudos after April 2nd. at 9AM PDT may not receive an invitation but will be able to view the session online after conclusion of the event. Give your "kudo" today and mark your calendars for April 3rd, 2024 at 9:30 AM PDT and join us for an engaging and informative session!

Tuesday Tip: Blogging in the Community is a Great Way to Start

TUESDAY TIPS are our way of communicating helpful things we've learned or shared that have helped members of the Community. Whether you're just getting started or you're a seasoned pro, Tuesday Tips will help you know where to go, what to look for, and navigate your way through the ever-growing--and ever-changing--world of the Power Platform Community! We cover basics about the Community, provide a few "insider tips" to make your experience even better, and share best practices gleaned from our most active community members and Super Users.   With so many new Community members joining us each week, we'll also review a few of our "best practices" so you know just "how" the Community works, so make sure to watch the News & Announcements each week for the latest and greatest Tuesday Tips!   This Week's Topic: Blogging in the Community Are you new to our Communities and feel like you may know a few things to share, but you're not quite ready to start answering questions in the forums? A great place to start is the Community blog! Whether you've been using Power Platform for awhile, or you're new to the low-code revolution, the Community blog is a place for anyone who can write, has some great insight to share, and is willing to commit to posting regularly! In other words, we want YOU to join the Community blog.    Why should you consider becoming a blog author? Here are just a few great reasons. 🎉   Learn from Each Other: Our community is like a bustling marketplace of ideas. By sharing your experiences and insights, you contribute to a dynamic ecosystem where makers learn from one another. Your unique perspective matters! Collaborate and Innovate: Imagine a virtual brainstorming session where minds collide, ideas spark, and solutions emerge. That’s what our community blog offers—a platform for collaboration and innovation. Together, we can build something extraordinary. Showcase the Power of Low-Code: You know that feeling when you discover a hidden gem? By writing about your experience with your favorite Power Platform tool, you’re shining a spotlight on its capabilities and real-world applications. It’s like saying, “Hey world, check out this amazing tool!” Earn Trust and Credibility: When you share valuable information, you become a trusted resource. Your fellow community members rely on your tips, tricks, and know-how. It’s like being the go-to friend who always has the best recommendations. Empower Others: By contributing to our community blog, you empower others to level up their skills. Whether it’s a nifty workaround, a time-saving hack, or an aha moment, your words have impact. So grab your keyboard, brew your favorite beverage, and start writing! Your insights matter and your voice counts! With every blog shared in the Community, we all do a better job of tackling complex challenges with gusto. 🚀   Welcome aboard, future blog author! ✍️✏️🌠 Get started blogging across the Power Platform Communities today! Just follow one of the links below to begin your blogging adventure.   Power Apps: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Power-Apps-Community-Blog/bg-p/PowerAppsBlog Power Automate: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Power-Automate-Community-Blog/bg-p/MPABlog Copilot Studio: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Copilot-Studio-Community-Blog/bg-p/PVACommunityBlog Power Pages: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Power-Pages-Community-Blog/bg-p/mpp_blog   When you follow the link, look for the Message Admins button like this on the page's right rail, and let us know you're interested. We can't wait to connect with you and help you get started. Thanks for being part of our incredible community--and thanks for becoming part of the community blog!

Launch Event Registration: Redefine What's Possible Using AI

Join Microsoft product leaders and engineers for an in-depth look at the latest features in Microsoft Dynamics 365 and Microsoft Power Platform. Learn how advances in AI and Microsoft Copilot can help you connect teams, processes, and data, and respond to changing business needs with greater agility. We’ll share insights and demonstrate how 2024 release wave 1 updates and advancements will help you:   Streamline business processes, automate repetitive tasks, and unlock creativity using the power of Copilot and role-specific insights and actions. Unify customer data to optimize customer journeys with generative AI and foster collaboration between sales and marketing teams. Strengthen governance with upgraded tools and features. Accelerate low-code development  using natural language and streamlined tools. Plus, you can get answers to your questions during our live Q&A chat! Don't wait--register today by clicking the image below!  

Top Solution Authors
Top Kudoed Authors
Users online (6,270)