cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Reply
DianaBirkelbach
Super User
Super User

Which event for notifyOutputChanged

When we have a Textarea PCF control, we can call notifyOutputChanged on the events: "input" or "change" . What's the best practice for that?

If we choose "input", the control will trigger it's own updateView() for every character we type; it doesn't seem to be a good way.

If we choose "change", it will call the notifyOutputChanged only if the textarea looses focus, but when the autosave is triggered before the user leaves the input, the updateView() will be triggered with a old value, and he looses the text he typed.

Kind regards,
Diana
----------
Please click "Accept as Solution" if my post answered your question so that others may find it more quickly. If you found this post helpful consider giving it a "Thumbs Up."
13 REPLIES 13
ben-thompson
Memorable Member
Memorable Member

I've just checked what I do in one of the textarea controls I have and it's called on mouse leave.

 

It's probably worth saying that we don't use a textarea input control, instead we use an editable div which we set to contentEditable=true onMouseEnter and to false when onMouseLeave at which point we also call notifyOutputChanged

---
If this post has answered your question please consider it for "Accept as Solution" or if it has been helpful give it a "Thumbs Up".

Thank you @ben-thompson for the fast answer.

But if I understand right, you must have the same problem.

To reproduce it, edit another field on the form, just to get the form dirty, then start to edit in your div, and don't leave the div, just wait for the autosave. Then the content edited will be deleted, because the updateView() is called with the old value.

In updateView we have to change the value of the input, because somebody else might have changed the value using the from sdk (outside the control, using attribute.setValue()), so we have to reflect this change.

A workarround would be to check in updateView() to see if the value that we get is different than the last values that we set in getOutputs(), but that's not really right, since somebody might really want to change the value back, using the attribute.setValue().

So it seems to me that we are forced to report every change instantly by calling notifyOutputChanged, which will call again the updateView() method. 

I'm not sure if I can explain what happens. I'll attach a short video about this issue. 

 

Kind regards,
Diana
----------
Please click "Accept as Solution" if my post answered your question so that others may find it more quickly. If you found this post helpful consider giving it a "Thumbs Up."

In which case I can't help

 

I'm using a recentish environment (created this month but not upgraded to wave 1) and autosave is enabled but I can't reproduce the issue as the autosave functionality doesn't seem to be working.  Granted the form does contain 4 different PCF controls but I don't think any of those are the issue. 

 

Now I would be concerned by that but in April the save button appears so the interface is better.

 

---
If this post has answered your question please consider it for "Accept as Solution" or if it has been helpful give it a "Thumbs Up".

Scrap that I left it open for 5 minutes and it did autosave without losing data - so I wonder if the issue is that you are using a textarea which is an input field and we use editable Divs with the value stored in the background in a javascript variable.

 

Looking at the updateview routine we have - we store the raw parameter value in a separate variable and check it every time the routine is called - if the value changes we update the text within the Div otherwise we leave it as is.

---
If this post has answered your question please consider it for "Accept as Solution" or if it has been helpful give it a "Thumbs Up".

Thanks @ben-thompson ! It's a awesome community here! 

Lucky you that it works! 😉 

But then you implemented already one of the workarrounds: you check if the value is a new one, and if it's the value that you already knew, you ignore that: so you ignore the refresh after the autosave.

That would work in most of the cases, but there could happen that the form scripting is calling attribute.setValue(oldValue) in the meanwhile. You would ignore that, right? I agree that won't happen a lot (maybe never), but maybe a plugin sets the value back, and you'll ignore it.  🤔 

 

In case it helps somebody else, I have now an implementation using an "input" event (to save internal the value), and there I debounce the "notifyOutputChanged" (so it will trigger only once in 250 ms). 

 

Seems that both solutions are workarrounds. 

 

 

Kind regards,
Diana
----------
Please click "Accept as Solution" if my post answered your question so that others may find it more quickly. If you found this post helpful consider giving it a "Thumbs Up."

To be honest my viewpoint is that autosave is more trouble than it's worth - come April I will be doing everything I can to disable it..

 

What I care about is that the user interface works the way users would expect it to which means that the form should be displaying exactly what the user expects. So the only time we would update a field within the PCF control is if another control on the form triggered. 

 

For a lot of our cases that's easy as we are using PCF controls to avoid on page scripting - say field 2 is an (attribute list) attached to field 1 (entity list) so when field 1 changes we reset field 2 and update the options to reflect that change but outside of that you really should be ignoring any value changes - the logic really should be set value on first pass of updateview and ignore that part of the code on subsequent runs. 

---
If this post has answered your question please consider it for "Accept as Solution" or if it has been helpful give it a "Thumbs Up".

Thanks again @ben-thompson . You're right. Actually registering on "input" doesn't work as I thought, since between the autosave start and the moment the form is refreshed, there are a few milliseconds, while the user is typing, so he would lose some chars.

 

I'll use the workarround  you suggested:  I register on "change" of the input, and in updateView() I ignore the value if it's the old one. So using this workarround the value is not lost after autosave, but it's still not saved until the user change the focus outside the control. So if another script on the form is navigating away or closing the window, the user loses the introduced text.
But I've checked: an out-of-the-box control doesn't their values, they automatically save it somehow. Since I have no influence on the other scripts in the form, I have to be sure that I don't lose the introduced data .

 

I've made a test by defining in the console the following function (it only saves the form if necessary, and closes the form). I try to simulate another scripts running on the form:

function checkSavingOnLeave(fieldName){
 const value = Xrm.Page.getAttribute(fieldName).getValue();
 console.log(`value at start: ${value}`);
 window.setTimeout( async () => {
    console.log(Xrm.Page.getAttribute(fieldName).getValue());
    console.log(`dirty: ${Xrm.Page.data.getIsDirty()}`);
    const saved = !Xrm.Page.data.getIsDirty() || await Xrm.Page.data.save();
    if(saved===true) {
      console.log(`value before close: ${Xrm.Page.getAttribute(fieldName).getValue()}`);
      Xrm.Page.ui.close();
    }
    else
       console.log("not saved");
 }, 7000);
}

 So I call the function for my pcf control (while the form is not dirty) then I go to my PCF control and I change the text, but don't leave the control for a few seconds, until my script is triggered.

I get this console output:

checkSavingOnLeave("orb_textarea")
value at start: PCF
PCF
dirty: false
value before close: PCF

The form didn't get the change, it gets closed, but the text I typed is lost.

 

If I call the same function for a standard input control (like the name control) I get the same log

checkSavingOnLeave("orb_name")
value at start: PCF
PCF
dirty: false
value before close: PCF

The difference is that the orb_name (which is a standard control) doesn't loose the changed text, even if the value after the Xrm.Page.data.save() is still the old one, while my PCF control loses the changed text.

 

Here is my updateView(), in case I do something wrong:

	public updateView(context: ComponentFramework.Context<IInputs>): void
	{						
		const maybeNewValue = context.parameters.myTextarea.raw || "";		
		if(maybeNewValue!== this.value){
			this._inputWindowElement.value = maybeNewValue;	
			this.value = maybeNewValue;			
			console.log(`value set to ${maybeNewValue}`);
		}
		this._inputWindowElement.disabled = context.mode.isControlDisabled;		
	}

 

This is not a problem related only to textarea, it happens also with a text input.
It's a very simple example of PCF control: just an input control, nothing fancy. Since the standard controls are made using the same framework, Microsoft must have a solution for that already. Maybe somebody from the team can help me...

 

 

 

 

Kind regards,
Diana
----------
Please click "Accept as Solution" if my post answered your question so that others may find it more quickly. If you found this post helpful consider giving it a "Thumbs Up."

Thanks for the inputs and great discussion on this.

 

I reached out to the engineering team and we have some investigations done. We are evaluating whats the best way to handle this from UCI and form/PCF infra perspective.

 

One item which we are looking into is to NOT call update on the control via auto-save if the value for that control has not change (tracked by internal bug id 1739331).  Will keep this thread posted on updates.

 

Hemant Gaur

Thank you very much to all who are helping us. Is a great community.

 @HemantG  Yes, would be great to have this solution: not to call updateView after auto-save.

I just tried my PCF control in a CanvasApp, and the solution that I thought it worked in Model-Driven apps (use the onInput event, so basically only when the user leaves the input) doesn't work in CanvasApps. There we have to implement a Patch requests (since it cannot be integrated in the EditForm-Submit process), and the moment the user clicks the Save Button, the "input" event was not  triggered already (if the user goes directly from the input to the save button), and he loses the data.

So the solution you and the engineers figured out, might be the only way if we want the control to work both in model-driven and canvas apps.

Best regards,

Diana

Kind regards,
Diana
----------
Please click "Accept as Solution" if my post answered your question so that others may find it more quickly. If you found this post helpful consider giving it a "Thumbs Up."

Helpful resources

Announcements

It's #MPPC23 Week! Check Out the Community Sessions and Events Happening in Vegas

After all the planning and preparing, the annual Microsoft Power Platform Conference is finally here! We are excited to see so many of our community in Las Vegas this week. To help make sure you don't miss any of the workshops, sessions, and events we have planned, make sure to check out this handy Community One-Sheet, and download the pdf today! Make sure to stop by the Community Lounge to meet @hugobernier, @EricArcher, @heaher_italent, and @AshleyFelts from our team! See you in Vegas!    

Join Us for the First-Ever Biz Apps Community User Group Meeting: Live from MPPC23

  Join us for the first-ever the Biz Apps Community User Group meeting live from the Power Platform Conference! This one hour user group meeting is all about discovering the value and benefits of User Groups! Discover how you can find a group in your local area or about specific topics where you can learn new skills and meet like-minded people as a user group member.   Hear from User Group leaders about why they do what they do and what resources they receive to help them succeed as community ambassadors. If you have never attended a User Group meeting before, this will be a great introduction! We hope you are inspired to find a group that meets your unique interests!   October 5th at 2:15 pm Pacific time   If you're attending #MPPC23 in Las Vegas, join us in person! Find out more here: https://powerplatformconf.com/#!/session/Biz%20Apps%20Community%20User%20Group%20Meeting%20-%20Live%20from%20MPPC/6172   Not at MPPC23? Attend vvirtually by registering here: https://aka.ms/MPPCusergroupmeeting2023    If you can't attend this meeting live, don't worry! We will record this meeting and share it with the Community at powerusers.microsoft.com 

Back to Basics: Tuesday Tip #1: All About YOUR Community Account

We are excited to kick off our new #TuesdayTIps series, "Back to Basics." This weekly series is our way of helping the amazing members of our community--both new members and seasoned veterans--learn and grow in how to best engage in the community! Each Tuesday, we will feature new areas of content that will help you best understand the community--from ranking and badges to profile avatars, from Super Users to blogging in the community. Our hope is that this information will help each of our community members grow in their experience with Power Platform, with the community, and with each other!     This Week's Tips: Account Support: Changing Passwords, Changing Email Addresses or Usernames, "Need Admin Approval," Etc.Wondering how to get support for your community account? Check out the details on these common questions and more. Just follow the link below for articles that explain it all.Community Account Support - Power Platform Community (microsoft.com)   All About GDPR: How It Affects Closing Your Community Account (And Why You Should Think Twice Before You Do)GDPR, the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), took effect May 25th 2018. A European privacy law, GDPR imposes new rules on companies and other organizations offering goods and services to people in the European Union (EU), or that collect and analyze data tied to EU residents. GDPR applies no matter where you are located, and it affects what happens when you decide to close your account. Read the details here:All About GDPR - Power Platform Community (microsoft.com)   Getting to Know You: Setting Up Your Community Profile, Customizing Your Profile, and More.Your community profile helps other members of the community get to know you as you begin to engage and interact. Your profile is a mirror of your activity in the community. Find out how to set it up, change your avatar, adjust your time zone, and more. Click on the link below to find out how:Community Profile, Time Zone, Picture (Avatar) & D... - Power Platform Community (microsoft.com)   That's it for this week. Tune in for more Tuesday Tips next Tuesday and join the community as we get "Back to Basics."

Power Platform Community Newsletter: September 2023

Welcome to our September 2023 Newsletter, where we highlight the latest news, product releases, podcasts, upcoming events, and the great work of our Power Platform Community members. As usual, please make sure you follow our News & Announcements in the Community to stay up to date. Another great way to connect is to join our Power Platform Community on LinkedIn. You can join our LInkedIn community here.   MPPC's Got Power - Submissions end September 28th! Are you ready to showcase your skills at the Microsoft Power Platform Conference in Las Vegas? Don't miss out on the "MPPC's Got Power" talent show, a grand celebration of connection, inspiration, and shared journeys. Whether you're a technical innovator, a talented storyteller, or have a hidden creative side, we want to see what you've got! With three categories to choose from, you have the chance to shine on stage and make your mark in the Microsoft Power Platform community.  Click the GIF to sign up by Thursday 28th September to be part of an unforgettable MPPC23 experience. Now is your time to shine!     Check Out the Low Code Approach Podcast Give the Low Code Approach Podcast a listen! Hosted by Sean Fiene, Wendy Haddad, and Kenric Auguillard, this innovative show shines a light on how Microsoft MVPs, product team members, and Community users are building exciting solutions using Microsoft Power Platform. Plus, with guests like Kartik Kanakasabesan, April Dunnam, Ricardo Duncan Jr., Sonja Gu, Phil Topness, Shane Young and more, this weekly show is a must for all you Business Applications enthusiasts out there. Click the image below to check it out!           COMMUNITY HIGHLIGHTS Check out the most active Community users for August 2023. These hardworking members are posting regularly, answering questions, writing blogs, giving kudos, and providing top solutions in their communities across Power Platform. Huge thanks to these amazing community members for their great contributions last month! trice602poweractivateLaurensMWarrenBelzAmikBCBuizerSamLedcreativeopinion timlExpiscornovusManishSolankiMattJimisonfernandosilvaMisterMarkPstork1saudali_25hafizsultan242Lucas001ragavanrajanp_doc   UPCOMING EVENT: 365 EDUCON CHICAGO Whether you're new to Microsoft 365, Power Platform and SharePoint, or an experienced power user, admin or developer, 365 EduCon has content designed to fit your experience level and area of interest. Their workshops and sessions are taught by Microsoft Certified Trainers, MVPs, Regional Directors, and Engineers. Find out more and register here: Home - Microsoft 365 EduCon Chicago - A Microsoft 365 Conference.  

Announcing the MPPC's Got Power Talent Show at #MPPC23

Are you attending the Microsoft Power Platform Conference 2023 in Las Vegas? If so, we invite you to join us for the MPPC's Got Power Talent Show!      Our talent show is more than a show—it's a grand celebration of connection, inspiration, and shared journeys. Through stories, skills, and collective experiences, we come together to uplift, inspire, and revel in the magic of our community's diverse talents. This year, our talent event promises to be an unforgettable experience, echoing louder and brighter than anything you've seen before.    We're casting a wider net with three captivating categories:  Demo Technical Solutions: Show us your Power Platform innovations, be it apps, flows, chatbots, websites or dashboards... Storytelling: Share tales of your journey with Power Platform. Hidden Talents: Unveil your creative side—be it dancing, singing, rapping, poetry, or comedy. Let your talent shine!    Got That Special Spark? A Story That Demands to Be Heard? Your moment is now!  🚀 Sign up to Showcase Your Brilliance: https://aka.ms/MPPCGotPowerSignUp  🔥 Deadline for submissions: Thursday, Sept 28th    How It Works:  Submit this form to sign up: https://aka.ms/MPPCGotPowerSignUp  We'll contact you if you're selected. Get ready to be onstage!  The Spotlight is Yours: Each participant has 3-5 minutes to shine, with insightful commentary from our panel of judges. We’re not just giving you a stage; we’re handing you the platform to make your mark.     Be the Story We Tell: Your talents and narratives will not just entertain but inspire, serving as the bedrock for our community’s future stories and successes.    Celebration, Surprises, and Connections: As the curtain falls, the excitement continues! Await surprise awards and seize the chance to mingle with industry experts, Microsoft Power Platform leaders, and community luminaries. It's not just a show; it's an opportunity to forge connections and celebrate shared successes.    Event Details:  📆 Date and Time: Wed Oct 4th, 6:30-9:00PM   📍 Location: MPPC23 at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV, USA  

September User Group Success Story: Reading Dynamics 365 & Power Platform User Group

The Reading Dynamics 365 and Power Platform User Group is a community-driven initiative that started in September 2022. It has quickly earned recognition for its enthusiastic leadership and resilience in the face of challenges. With a focus on promoting learning and networking among professionals in the Dynamics 365 and Power Platform ecosystem, the group has grown steadily and gained a reputation for its commitment to its members!   The group, which had its inaugural event in January 2023 at the Microsoft UK Headquarters in Reading, has since organized three successful gatherings, including a recent social lunch. They maintain a regular schedule of four events per year, each attended by an average of 20-25 enthusiastic participants who enjoy engaging talks and, of course, pizza.     The Reading User Group's presence is primarily spread through LinkedIn and Meetup, with the support of the wider community. This thriving community is managed by a dedicated team consisting of Fraser Dear, Tim Leung, and Andrew Bibby, who serves as the main point of contact for the UK Dynamics 365 and Power Platform User Groups.   Andrew Bibby, an active figure in the Dynamics 365 and Power Platform community, nominated this group due to his admiration for the Reading UK User Group's efforts. He emphasized their remarkable enthusiasm and success in running the group, noting that they navigated challenges such as finding venues with resilience and smiles on their faces. Despite being a relatively new group with 20-30 members, they have managed to achieve high attendance at their meetings.   The group's journey began when Fraser Dear moved to the Reading area and realized the absence of a user group catering to professionals in the Dynamics 365 and Power Platform space. He reached out to Andrew, who provided valuable guidance and support, allowing the Reading User Group to officially join the UK Dynamics 365 and Power Platform User Groups community.   One of the group's notable achievements was overcoming the challenge of finding a suitable venue. Initially, their "home" was the Microsoft UK HQ in Reading. However, due to office closures, they had to seek a new location with limited time. Fortunately, a connection with Stephanie Stacey from Microsoft led them to Reading College and its Institute of Technology. The college generously offered them event space and support, forging a mutually beneficial partnership where the group promotes the Institute and encourages its members to support the next generation of IT professionals.   With the dedication of its leadership team, the Reading Dynamics 365 and Power Platform User Group is poised to continue growing and thriving! Their story exemplifies the power of community-driven initiatives and the positive impact they can have on professional development and networking in the tech industry. As they move forward with their upcoming events and collaborations with Reading College, the group is likely to remain a valuable resource for professionals in the Reading area and beyond.

Top Solution Authors
Users online (3,343)