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kokitabayashi
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Results from SQL query using subquery is blank

I'm currently running SQL command using Excel ODBC Driver and trying to run layers of JOIN statements using subquery but facing an issue.

 

I ran the same SQL query on My SQL DB via MySQL Workbench and that one worked as expected but, the same query with the same data running on PAD with Excel ODBC Driver gives me different (and unexpected) results.

 

What I'm trying to do overall: Join two tables trying multiple columns one by one using subqueries.

 

High level steps (my question is a subset of the step 1 and 2):

1. Join TBL_1 and TBL_2 with column 'A' => Keep the matched result (will call Res_X here) and unmatched result (will call Res_D here)

2. Join TBL_1 and Res_D (unmatched result from step 1) with column 'B' => Keep the matched result (will call Res_Z here) and unmatched result

3. Union ALL Res_X (matched result from step 1) and Res_Z (matched result from step 2)

4. Do the same operation using column 'C' and Union All the matched results (continue total four times)

 

Following is the test tables I'm using:

[TBL_1]

COL_ACOL_B
1001
1012
1023
1035
1046
1057
1068

 

[TBL_2]

COL_CCOL_D
100A
101B
102C
5D
601E
701F
10ABXXX801YYY
11ABCXXX801YYY

 

[Expected result (run query with unmatched result which is a subset of what I'm trying)]

c.COL_Ac.COL_BCOL_CCOL_Dd.COL_Ad.COL_A
  5D1035
  601E  
  701F  
  10ABXXX801YYY  
  11ABCXXX801YYY  

 

[Connection String]

kokitabayashi_0-1660276656733.png

As some columns have mixed data, I put "IMEX=1" in the connection string.

 

[SQL Query]

kokitabayashi_1-1660276722622.png

As some columns have mixed data, ON c.[COL_C] = d.[COL_B] returned an error. Because of it, I used LIKE without any wildcard to join two tables.

 

[Result from the SQL Query]

kokitabayashi_2-1660276851098.png

As you can see, the first JOIN statement is working and returning 5 rows but the second JOIN statement which is connecting the results from the 1st JOIN and the original table 1 is returning blank.

When I run this on MySQL via MySQL Workbench, it returns value for d.COL_A and d.COL_B as expected (103 and 5).

 

 

Following are some experiments I also did to specify where the issue is coming from.

 

If I run the subquery separately, the result looks like this (looks fine).

[Sub query only]

kokitabayashi_3-1660277414494.png

[Result when running sub query only]

kokitabayashi_4-1660277454576.png

 

If I just join the two tables using the soma column without using subquery, the result looks like this (looks fine).

[Query which is just joining two tables]

kokitabayashi_12-1660279262288.png

 

[Result from running the query which just join two tables]

kokitabayashi_6-1660277705503.png

 

If I flip the order of the original query it gave me different result (which is also confusing)

[Flip the order]

kokitabayashi_10-1660279037328.png

 

[Result from flipped SQL]

kokitabayashi_11-1660279094026.png

 

 

Based on the original result, result from MySQL and additional experiments, I'm assuming the issue is coming from how the subquery works on PAD & Excel ODBC combination.

 

Would be great if anyone could provide me an insight on this!

Thanks!

 

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ZS440
Resolver III
Resolver III

Hi.

@kokitabayashi 

Sorry I can't help you, but I have verified this.

In my environment, your Query works fine.

If there is any difference from my environment, you may have a clue.

 

Windows 10 Pro 21H2

Microsoft Excel for Microsoft 365 MSO (Version2207 Build 16.0.15427.20182) 64 bit 

Power Automate for desktop Version 2.22.263.222.02 Installer Edition

CleanShot 2022-08-13 at 12.09.16@2x.pngCleanShot 2022-08-13 at 12.10.46@2x.png

 

 

CleanShot 2022-08-13 at 12.13.32@2x.png

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Underscores in column names are omitted, but it works fine.

CleanShot 2022-08-13 at 12.58.37@2x.png

In my opinion, it is better not to use underscores(_) in column names.

Because when using the Microsoft Office Access Database Engine OLE DB Provider, underscores act as ANSI SQL wildcards.

 

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/client-developer/access/desktop-database-reference/compariso...

 

I can use "=" instead of "LIKE" if I do not use IMEX=1 for Extend Properties and the Excel data source is explicitly formatted as text type.

 

I hope it works out for you.

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ZS440
Resolver III
Resolver III

Hi @kokitabayashi 

Thank you for sharing your various verifications and results with us.
Thank you too.

 

However, I believe we need to be careful about IMEX=1.
IMEX=1 is telling the driver to read the data as text, but we are having problems.
I think we can confirm this by trying the following mixed data.

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 13.45.04@2x.png

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 13.52.43@2x.png


If there are more than 8 numerical values in a row and then text values are mixed, reading will fail and result in null, even though IMEX=1.

 

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 13.51.38@2x.png
Therefore, I think it would be safe to pre-cleanse the data source side (EXCEL in this case) to text type data.

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 13.58.00@2x.png

No use the IMEX=1 option.

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 13.59.25@2x.png

Similarly, by data formatting all columns to text type, your query can be executed using "=" without the IMEX option.

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 14.16.13@2x.pngCleanShot 2022-08-14 at 14.16.20@2x.png

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 14.20.31@2x.png

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If you do not want EXCEL to format your data, you can also explicitly enable IMEX=1 by setting HDR=NO. This will cause the first row of data to be the original column name and the entire column to be text type as well. (If the column name is a text type)

 

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 14.47.57@2x.png

I hope this helps you or anyone else.

 

 

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ZS440
Resolver III
Resolver III

Hi.

@kokitabayashi 

Sorry I can't help you, but I have verified this.

In my environment, your Query works fine.

If there is any difference from my environment, you may have a clue.

 

Windows 10 Pro 21H2

Microsoft Excel for Microsoft 365 MSO (Version2207 Build 16.0.15427.20182) 64 bit 

Power Automate for desktop Version 2.22.263.222.02 Installer Edition

CleanShot 2022-08-13 at 12.09.16@2x.pngCleanShot 2022-08-13 at 12.10.46@2x.png

 

 

CleanShot 2022-08-13 at 12.13.32@2x.png

CleanShot 2022-08-13 at 12.15.15@2x.png

Underscores in column names are omitted, but it works fine.

CleanShot 2022-08-13 at 12.58.37@2x.png

In my opinion, it is better not to use underscores(_) in column names.

Because when using the Microsoft Office Access Database Engine OLE DB Provider, underscores act as ANSI SQL wildcards.

 

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/client-developer/access/desktop-database-reference/compariso...

 

I can use "=" instead of "LIKE" if I do not use IMEX=1 for Extend Properties and the Excel data source is explicitly formatted as text type.

 

I hope it works out for you.

kokitabayashi
Advocate I
Advocate I

Thank you so much for your reply, @ZS440 

This is indeed, really helpful!

 

The following was the environment I was using when I originally posted.

 

** Original Test (Test-A) **

[Test Environment-A]

Windows 10 Enterprise 20H2

Microsoft Excel for Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2108 Build 16.0.14326.21052) 64-bit

PAD Version 2.16.215.22020

 

[SQL & Connector]

(Refer to the original post)

 

[Result in the Test Environment-A (as posted in the original post)]

kokitabayashi_0-1660436436694.png

 

Based on your reply, I did the following additional experiments and got interesting results.

 

** Additional Test (Test-B) **

[Test Environment-B]

Windows 10 Pro 21H2

Microsoft Excel for Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2207 Build 16.0.15427.20182) 64-bit

PAD Version 2.22.263.22202

 

[SQL & Connector]

(Same with the original one: Refer to the original post)

 

[Result in the Test Environment-B]

kokitabayashi_1-1660436825432.png

 

** Additional Test (Test-C) **

[Test Environment-C]

Windows 10 Pro 21H2
Microsoft Excel for Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2207 Build 16.0.15427.20182) 64-bit
PAD Version 2.21.244.22174

 

[SQL & Connector]

(Same with the original one: Refer to the original post)

 

[Result in the Test Environment-C]

kokitabayashi_2-1660437016254.png

 

As you can see, in the two additional environments (Test-B and C), I got the same results as yours (which was what I was originally expecting).

For these additional tests, I created a new bot and new excel file from scratch in the original environment (Test-A) as well, just in case, but the result was the same ("d.COL_A" and "d.COL_B" are blank).

 

It seems like not only PAD version is different but also Windows 10 Pro version and Excel versions are also different; therefore, I cannot conclude which exactly software version difference is causing the issue, but at this moment, considering the maturity of the software and the number of users of it, I'm guessing it may be a bug in PAD version 2.16.215.22020.

 

 

Also, thank you for sharing your opinion on using the underscore in column names and also sharing the results of trying = without IMEX=1 instead of LIKE with IMEX=1.

 

I didn't know about what you mentioned about the underscore with ODBC and it sounds like I should stop using it whenever I have an option. It is great to know that.

 

 

For the use of = instead of LIKE without IMEX=1, I tried as the following but, it seemed like some data were dropped.

 

** Experiment of = without IMEX=1 **

[Connector]

kokitabayashi_3-1660438601575.png

[SQL replaced LIKE with =]

kokitabayashi_4-1660438644443.png

 

[Result (from Environment-A)]

kokitabayashi_5-1660438674722.png

 

[Result (from Environment-B)]

kokitabayashi_6-1660438819519.png

 

As you can see, in the both environments, some data from COL_C were dropped. As I still need these data in the later steps, I tried to figure out the solution and came up with using LIKE with IMEX=1, but if you see any risk doing this way (or any other better way to do it), it would be great if I could hear it!

 

Thank you!

 

ZS440
Resolver III
Resolver III

Hi @kokitabayashi 

Thank you for sharing your various verifications and results with us.
Thank you too.

 

However, I believe we need to be careful about IMEX=1.
IMEX=1 is telling the driver to read the data as text, but we are having problems.
I think we can confirm this by trying the following mixed data.

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 13.45.04@2x.png

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 13.52.43@2x.png


If there are more than 8 numerical values in a row and then text values are mixed, reading will fail and result in null, even though IMEX=1.

 

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 13.51.38@2x.png
Therefore, I think it would be safe to pre-cleanse the data source side (EXCEL in this case) to text type data.

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 13.58.00@2x.png

No use the IMEX=1 option.

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 13.59.25@2x.png

Similarly, by data formatting all columns to text type, your query can be executed using "=" without the IMEX option.

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 14.16.13@2x.pngCleanShot 2022-08-14 at 14.16.20@2x.png

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 14.20.31@2x.png

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 14.21.32@2x.png

If you do not want EXCEL to format your data, you can also explicitly enable IMEX=1 by setting HDR=NO. This will cause the first row of data to be the original column name and the entire column to be text type as well. (If the column name is a text type)

 

CleanShot 2022-08-14 at 14.47.57@2x.png

I hope this helps you or anyone else.

 

 

Hi @ZS440 ,

Thank you for sharing your insights and pointing out the potential risk relying on IMEX=1!

 

I tried what you explained about IMEX=1 on my end and was able to recreate the issue ("1hundred8" and "ten" disappear), as well. This is actually, an interesting and also a big problem.

 

Also, the solution you suggested (convert the columns to Text format, stop using IMEX=1, and Join on '=') worked great, as well.

I added a "Run VBScript" action for changing the columns' format to Text before running the SQL statement and everything is working great right now.

 

'Opens the Excel file'
Set objExcel = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
Set objWorkbook = objExcel.Workbooks.Open("%ExcelFile%")
objExcel.Application.Visible = False

'Selects the sheet 1'
Set objSheet = objWorkbook.Sheets("%SheetName%")

'Change the number format of the row to Text'
for col=1 to 2
objSheet.columns(col).NumberFormat = "@"
next

'Selects the sheet 2'
Set objSheet = objWorkbook.Sheets("%SheetName2%")

'Change the number format of the row to Text'
for col=1 to 2
objSheet.columns(col).NumberFormat = "@"
next

'Saves and closes the Excel file'
objWorkbook.Save
objWorkbook.Close SaveChanges = True
objExcel.Application.Quit
Set objExcel = Nothing

 

Thanks!

ZS440
Resolver III
Resolver III

Hi. @kokitabayashi 

I'm glad it worked out for you.

I have learned a lot from you as well.
Thanks for sharing your great idea of using VBScript to change the formatting.

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TUESDAY TIPS are our way of communicating helpful things we've learned or shared that have helped members of the Community. Whether you're just getting started or you're a seasoned pro, Tuesday Tips will help you know where to go, what to look for, and navigate your way through the ever-growing--and ever-changing--world of the Power Platform Community! We cover basics about the Community, provide a few "insider tips" to make your experience even better, and share best practices gleaned from our most active community members and Super Users.   With so many new Community members joining us each week, we'll also review a few of our "best practices" so you know just "how" the Community works, so make sure to watch the News & Announcements each week for the latest and greatest Tuesday Tips!   This Week's Topic: Blogging in the Community Are you new to our Communities and feel like you may know a few things to share, but you're not quite ready to start answering questions in the forums? A great place to start is the Community blog! Whether you've been using Power Platform for awhile, or you're new to the low-code revolution, the Community blog is a place for anyone who can write, has some great insight to share, and is willing to commit to posting regularly! In other words, we want YOU to join the Community blog.    Why should you consider becoming a blog author? Here are just a few great reasons. 🎉   Learn from Each Other: Our community is like a bustling marketplace of ideas. By sharing your experiences and insights, you contribute to a dynamic ecosystem where makers learn from one another. Your unique perspective matters! Collaborate and Innovate: Imagine a virtual brainstorming session where minds collide, ideas spark, and solutions emerge. That’s what our community blog offers—a platform for collaboration and innovation. Together, we can build something extraordinary. Showcase the Power of Low-Code: You know that feeling when you discover a hidden gem? By writing about your experience with your favorite Power Platform tool, you’re shining a spotlight on its capabilities and real-world applications. It’s like saying, “Hey world, check out this amazing tool!” Earn Trust and Credibility: When you share valuable information, you become a trusted resource. Your fellow community members rely on your tips, tricks, and know-how. It’s like being the go-to friend who always has the best recommendations. Empower Others: By contributing to our community blog, you empower others to level up their skills. Whether it’s a nifty workaround, a time-saving hack, or an aha moment, your words have impact. So grab your keyboard, brew your favorite beverage, and start writing! Your insights matter and your voice counts! With every blog shared in the Community, we all do a better job of tackling complex challenges with gusto. 🚀 Welcome aboard, future blog author! ✍️💻🌟 Get started blogging across the Power Platform Communities today! Just follow one of the links below to begin your blogging adventure.   Power Apps: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Power-Apps-Community-Blog/bg-p/PowerAppsBlog Power Automate: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Power-Automate-Community-Blog/bg-p/MPABlog Copilot Studio: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Copilot-Studio-Community-Blog/bg-p/PVACommunityBlog Power Pages: https://powerusers.microsoft.com/t5/Power-Pages-Community-Blog/bg-p/mpp_blog   When you follow the link, look for the Message Admins button like this on the page's right rail, and let us know you're interested. We can't wait to connect with you and help you get started. Thanks for being part of our incredible community--and thanks for becoming part of the community blog!

Launch Event Registration: Redefine What's Possible Using AI

  Join Microsoft product leaders and engineers for an in-depth look at the latest features in Microsoft Dynamics 365 and Microsoft Power Platform. Learn how advances in AI and Microsoft Copilot can help you connect teams, processes, and data, and respond to changing business needs with greater agility. We’ll share insights and demonstrate how 2024 release wave 1 updates and advancements will help you:   Streamline business processes, automate repetitive tasks, and unlock creativity using the power of Copilot and role-specific insights and actions. Unify customer data to optimize customer journeys with generative AI and foster collaboration between sales and marketing teams. Strengthen governance with upgraded tools and features. Accelerate low-code development  using natural language and streamlined tools. Plus, you can get answers to your questions during our live Q&A chat! Don't wait--register today by clicking the image below!      

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