cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Reply
KSven
Kudo Collector
Kudo Collector

Custom Security Role | Create, Delete and Edit only OWN Tables

Hi lovely Community,

 

for my set up of tables I would like to create a security for 2 different "Admins".

 

Both Admins should be able to create new tables and of course to delete them as well, but only their OWN table.

In addition they should be able to add or delete some columns of their OWN tables.

 

Admin A cannot do something with tables of Admin B and Admin B cannot do something with tables of Admin A.

 

Would this be possible?

 

I already know I can give privelegies with Entity and Field option, but where to set up "ONLY OWN TABLES" ?

KSven_0-1616179680735.png

Unfortunately theres no option to use the key:

KSven_1-1616179747661.png

In addition I thought if Admin A has no rights for a table of Admin B, he would not be able to do something with this table, even if it looks like that:

KSven_2-1616179918157.png

But after my testing with two users, if a user hast Entity or Field privelegies, this user has the rights for all tables..

 

Any ideas?!

 

BR,

Sven

3 ACCEPTED SOLUTIONS

Accepted Solutions
jolanger
Frequent Visitor

There's no ownership related to tables itself, if a user have admin or system customizer rights and can create and modify tables, they have access to all tables in the environment.

I don't know if it really helps in this use case, but you could set up two separate environments for each of the admins, and import solutions from both environments into a joint environment. Creates a bit of additional work and a proper ALM process should be in place to deal with dependencies etc, but it would restrict access for each of the admins. 

View solution in original post

EricRegnier
Most Valuable Professional
Most Valuable Professional

Hi @KSven,

You are able to achieve this but not with privileges, but with proper solution management as @ChrisPiasecki suggested. To supplement, here is more context and steps:

 

Env A for Admin A

  1. Admin A is system admin in env A
  2. Admin A create a Table A in env A
  3. Env A has a Solution A containing Table A

Env B for Admin B

  1. Admin B is system admin in env B
  2. Admin B create a Table B in env B
  3. Env B has a Solution B containing Table B

Shared env X

  1. Both Admin A and B are system admin in env X
  2. Solution A and B are imported from their respective envs as managed
  3. Admin A and B perform the desired changes to table A and B respectively in env X
  4. Env X has a Solution X containing tables A and B sub-components that changed

Prod env P

  1. Both Admin A and B are system admin in env P
  2. Solution A and B are imported as managed
  3. Then Solution X is imported as managed

Note: don't be worried about the number of envs, licensing are no longer by envs 🙂

 

Hope this all makes sense!

View solution in original post

ChrisPiasecki
Most Valuable Professional
Most Valuable Professional

Hi @KSven,

 

  1. Correct, Admin A won't be able to change the table created by admin B unless the managed properties are set to Customizable = Yes. Admin B would configure these settings in Env B before exporting as managed and Importing into Env X. 
  2. Admin A should use env A for creating a table that they do not want others to change.

Use env X for creating tables that you are ok with other Admins being able to change.

---
Please click Accept as Solution if my post answered your question. This will help others find solutions to similar questions. If you like my post and/or find it helpful, please consider giving it a Thumbs Up.

---
Please click Accept as Solution if my post answered your question. This will help others find solutions to similar questions. If you like my post and/or find it helpful, please consider giving it a Thumbs Up.
Chris

View solution in original post

6 REPLIES 6
jolanger
Frequent Visitor

There's no ownership related to tables itself, if a user have admin or system customizer rights and can create and modify tables, they have access to all tables in the environment.

I don't know if it really helps in this use case, but you could set up two separate environments for each of the admins, and import solutions from both environments into a joint environment. Creates a bit of additional work and a proper ALM process should be in place to deal with dependencies etc, but it would restrict access for each of the admins. 

ChrisPiasecki
Most Valuable Professional
Most Valuable Professional

Hi @KSven,

 

You will need provide separate environments for each admin to do their isolated customizations. You would use Solutions to package up these customizations, export them as managed, and import them into a common environment. Solutions that are imported as managed mean the components contained cannot be customized unless the author of those components allow it via the Managed Properties for each component. 

 

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powerapps/maker/data-platform/set-managed-properties-for-field

 

---
Please click Accept as Solution if my post answered your question. This will help others find solutions to similar questions. If you like my post and/or find it helpful, please consider giving it a Thumbs Up.

 

 

 

---
Please click Accept as Solution if my post answered your question. This will help others find solutions to similar questions. If you like my post and/or find it helpful, please consider giving it a Thumbs Up.
Chris
EricRegnier
Most Valuable Professional
Most Valuable Professional

Hi @KSven,

You are able to achieve this but not with privileges, but with proper solution management as @ChrisPiasecki suggested. To supplement, here is more context and steps:

 

Env A for Admin A

  1. Admin A is system admin in env A
  2. Admin A create a Table A in env A
  3. Env A has a Solution A containing Table A

Env B for Admin B

  1. Admin B is system admin in env B
  2. Admin B create a Table B in env B
  3. Env B has a Solution B containing Table B

Shared env X

  1. Both Admin A and B are system admin in env X
  2. Solution A and B are imported from their respective envs as managed
  3. Admin A and B perform the desired changes to table A and B respectively in env X
  4. Env X has a Solution X containing tables A and B sub-components that changed

Prod env P

  1. Both Admin A and B are system admin in env P
  2. Solution A and B are imported as managed
  3. Then Solution X is imported as managed

Note: don't be worried about the number of envs, licensing are no longer by envs 🙂

 

Hope this all makes sense!

KSven
Kudo Collector
Kudo Collector

Hi Guys @jolanger / @ChrisPiasecki / @EricRegnier ,

 

thank you for your replys! 

 

@EricRegnier, I have tried to reproduce your steps:

 

Environments:

KSven_0-1616337173357.png

 

Env A for Admin A - Solution A

KSven_1-1616337255488.png

 

Env B for Admin B - Solution B

KSven_2-1616337326204.png

 

Shared env X - Database includes both created tables

KSven_3-1616337557217.png

 

My Questions for Pro env P:

 

1. If Admin A as Systemadmin in Env X would like to change Table B of Admin B he can't cause the solution B is managed by Env B and here's only Admin B Systemadmin? Or how to understand "managed" Solution?

 

2. If Admin A would like to create a new Table A1 (also not editable for Admin B) he need to do this in Env A or Env X?

 

Thank you in advance!

 

BR,

Sven

 

ChrisPiasecki
Most Valuable Professional
Most Valuable Professional

Hi @KSven,

 

  1. Correct, Admin A won't be able to change the table created by admin B unless the managed properties are set to Customizable = Yes. Admin B would configure these settings in Env B before exporting as managed and Importing into Env X. 
  2. Admin A should use env A for creating a table that they do not want others to change.

Use env X for creating tables that you are ok with other Admins being able to change.

---
Please click Accept as Solution if my post answered your question. This will help others find solutions to similar questions. If you like my post and/or find it helpful, please consider giving it a Thumbs Up.

---
Please click Accept as Solution if my post answered your question. This will help others find solutions to similar questions. If you like my post and/or find it helpful, please consider giving it a Thumbs Up.
Chris

Hi @ChrisPiasecki ,

 

ok great, I guess now I got the concept!

 

Thank you all! 

Helpful resources

Announcements

Calling all User Group Leaders and Super Users! Mark Your Calendars for the next Community Ambassador Call on May 9th!

This month's Community Ambassador call is on May 9th at 9a & 3p PDT. Please keep an eye out in your private messages and Teams channels for your invitation. There are lots of exciting updates coming to the Community, and we have some exclusive opportunities to share with you! As always, we'll also review regular updates for User Groups, Super Users, and share general information about what's going on in the Community.     Be sure to register & we hope to see all of you there!

April 2024 Community Newsletter

We're pleased to share the April Community Newsletter, where we highlight the latest news, product releases, upcoming events, and the amazing work of our outstanding Community members.   If you're new to the Community, please make sure to follow the latest News & Announcements and check out the Community on LinkedIn as well! It's the best way to stay up-to-date with all the news from across Microsoft Power Platform and beyond.    COMMUNITY HIGHLIGHTS   Check out the most active community members of the last month! These hardworking members are posting regularly, answering questions, kudos, and providing top solutions in their communities. We are so thankful for each of you--keep up the great work! If you hope to see your name here next month, follow these awesome community members to see what they do!   Power AppsPower AutomateCopilot StudioPower PagesWarrenBelzDeenujialexander2523ragavanrajanLaurensMManishSolankiMattJimisonLucas001AmikcapuanodanilostephenrobertOliverRodriguestimlAndrewJManikandanSFubarmmbr1606VishnuReddy1997theMacResolutionsVishalJhaveriVictorIvanidzejsrandhawahagrua33ikExpiscornovusFGuerrero1PowerAddictgulshankhuranaANBExpiscornovusprathyooSpongYeNived_Nambiardeeksha15795apangelesGochixgrantjenkinsvasu24Mfon   LATEST NEWS Business Applications Launch Event - On Demand In case you missed the Business Applications Launch Event, you can now catch up on all the announcements and watch the entire event on-demand inside Charles Lamanna's latest cloud blog.   This is your one stop shop for all the latest Copilot features across Power Platform and #Dynamics365, including first-hand looks at how companies such as Lenovo, Sonepar, Ford Motor Company, Omnicom and more are using these new capabilities in transformative ways. Click the image below to watch today!     Power Platform Community Conference 2024 is here! It's time to look forward to the next installment of the Power Platform Community Conference, which takes place this year on 18-20th September 2024 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas!   Come and be inspired by Microsoft senior thought leaders and the engineers behind the #PowerPlatform, with Charles Lamanna, Sangya Singh, Ryan Cunningham, Kim Manis, Nirav Shah, Omar Aftab and Leon Welicki already confirmed to speak. You'll also be able to learn from industry experts and Microsoft MVPs who are dedicated to bridging the gap between humanity and technology. These include the likes of Lisa Crosbie, Victor Dantas, Kristine Kolodziejski, David Yack, Daniel Christian, Miguel Félix, and Mats Necker, with many more to be announced over the coming weeks.   Click here to watch our brand-new sizzle reel for #PPCC24 or click the image below to find out more about registration. See you in Vegas!     Power Up Program Announces New Video-Based Learning Hear from Principal Program Manager, Dimpi Gandhi, to discover the latest enhancements to the Microsoft #PowerUpProgram. These include a new accelerated video-based curriculum crafted with the expertise of Microsoft MVPs, Rory Neary and Charlie Phipps-Bennett. If you’d like to hear what’s coming next, click the image below to find out more!     UPCOMING EVENTS Microsoft Build - Seattle and Online - 21-23rd May 2024 Taking place on 21-23rd May 2024 both online and in Seattle, this is the perfect event to learn more about low code development, creating copilots, cloud platforms, and so much more to help you unleash the power of AI.   There's a serious wealth of talent speaking across the three days, including the likes of Satya Nadella, Amanda K. Silver, Scott Guthrie, Sarah Bird, Charles Lamanna, Miti J., Kevin Scott, Asha Sharma, Rajesh Jha, Arun Ulag, Clay Wesener, and many more.   And don't worry if you can't make it to Seattle, the event will be online and totally free to join. Click the image below to register for #MSBuild today!     European Collab Summit - Germany - 14-16th May 2024 The clock is counting down to the amazing European Collaboration Summit, which takes place in Germany May 14-16, 2024. #CollabSummit2024 is designed to provide cutting-edge insights and best practices into Power Platform, Microsoft 365, Teams, Viva, and so much more. There's a whole host of experts speakers across the three-day event, including the likes of Vesa Juvonen, Laurie Pottmeyer, Dan Holme, Mark Kashman, Dona Sarkar, Gavin Barron, Emily Mancini, Martina Grom, Ahmad Najjar, Liz Sundet, Nikki Chapple, Sara Fennah, Seb Matthews, Tobias Martin, Zoe Wilson, Fabian Williams, and many more.   Click the image below to find out more about #ECS2024 and register today!   Microsoft 365 & Power Platform Conference - Seattle - 3-7th June If you're looking to turbo boost your Power Platform skills this year, why not take a look at everything TechCon365 has to offer at the Seattle Convention Center on June 3-7, 2024.   This amazing 3-day conference (with 2 optional days of workshops) offers over 130 sessions across multiple tracks, alongside 25 workshops presented by Power Platform, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Teams, Viva, Azure, Copilot and AI experts. There's a great array of speakers, including the likes of Nirav Shah, Naomi Moneypenny, Jason Himmelstein, Heather Cook, Karuana Gatimu, Mark Kashman, Michelle Gilbert, Taiki Y., Kristi K., Nate Chamberlain, Julie Koesmarno, Daniel Glenn, Sarah Haase, Marc Windle, Amit Vasu, Joanne C Klein, Agnes Molnar, and many more.   Click the image below for more #Techcon365 intel and register today!   For more events, click the image below to visit the Microsoft Community Days website.    

Tuesday Tip | Update Your Community Profile Today!

It's time for another TUESDAY TIPS, your weekly connection with the most insightful tips and tricks that empower both newcomers and veterans in the Power Platform Community! Every Tuesday, we bring you a curated selection of the finest advice, distilled from the resources and tools in the Community. Whether you’re a seasoned member or just getting started, Tuesday Tips are the perfect compass guiding you across the dynamic landscape of the Power Platform Community.   We're excited to announce that updating your community profile has never been easier! Keeping your profile up to date is essential for staying connected and engaged with the community.   Check out the following Support Articles with these topics: Accessing Your Community ProfileRetrieving Your Profile URLUpdating Your Community Profile Time ZoneChanging Your Community Profile Picture (Avatar)Setting Your Date Display Preferences Click on your community link for more information: Power Apps, Power Automate, Power Pages, Copilot Studio   Thank you for being an active part of our community. Your contributions make a difference! Best Regards, The Community Management Team

Hear what's next for the Power Up Program

Hear from Principal Program Manager, Dimpi Gandhi, to discover the latest enhancements to the Microsoft #PowerUpProgram, including a new accelerated video-based curriculum crafted with the expertise of Microsoft MVPs, Rory Neary and Charlie Phipps-Bennett. If you’d like to hear what’s coming next, click the link below to sign up today! https://aka.ms/PowerUp  

Tuesday Tip: Community User Groups

It's time for another TUESDAY TIPS, your weekly connection with the most insightful tips and tricks that empower both newcomers and veterans in the Power Platform Community! Every Tuesday, we bring you a curated selection of the finest advice, distilled from the resources and tools in the Community. Whether you’re a seasoned member or just getting started, Tuesday Tips are the perfect compass guiding you across the dynamic landscape of the Power Platform Community.   As our community family expands each week, we revisit our essential tools, tips, and tricks to ensure you’re well-versed in the community’s pulse. Keep an eye on the News & Announcements for your weekly Tuesday Tips—you never know what you may learn!   Today's Tip: Community User Groups and YOU Being part of, starting, or leading a User Group can have many great benefits for our community members who want to learn, share, and connect with others who are interested in the Microsoft Power Platform and the low-code revolution.   When you are part of a User Group, you discover amazing connections, learn incredible things, and build your skills. Some User Groups work in the virtual space, but many meet in physical locations, meaning you have several options when it comes to building community with people who are learning and growing together!   Some of the benefits of our Community User Groups are: Network with like-minded peers and product experts, and get in front of potential employers and clients.Learn from industry experts and influencers and make your own solutions more successful.Access exclusive community space, resources, tools, and support from Microsoft.Collaborate on projects, share best practices, and empower each other. These are just a few of the reasons why our community members love their User Groups. Don't wait. Get involved with (or maybe even start) a User Group today--just follow the tips below to get started.For current or new User Group leaders, all the information you need is here: User Group Leader Get Started GuideOnce you've kicked off your User Group, find the resources you need:  Community User Group ExperienceHave questions about our Community User Groups? Let us know! We are here to help you!

Super User of the Month | Ahmed Salih

We're thrilled to announce that Ahmed Salih is our Super User of the Month for April 2024. Ahmed has been one of our most active Super Users this year--in fact, he kicked off the year in our Community with this great video reminder of why being a Super User has been so important to him!   Ahmed is the Senior Power Platform Architect at Saint Jude's Children's Research Hospital in Memphis. He's been a Super User for two seasons and is also a Microsoft MVP! He's celebrating his 3rd year being active in the Community--and he's received more than 500 kudos while authoring nearly 300 solutions. Ahmed's contributions to the Super User in Training program has been invaluable, with his most recent session with SUIT highlighting an incredible amount of best practices and tips that have helped him achieve his success.   Ahmed's infectious enthusiasm and boundless energy are a key reason why so many Community members appreciate how he brings his personality--and expertise--to every interaction. With all the solutions he provides, his willingness to help the Community learn more about Power Platform, and his sheer joy in life, we are pleased to celebrate Ahmed and all his contributions! You can find him in the Community and on LinkedIn. Congratulations, Ahmed--thank you for being a SUPER user!  

Users online (6,376)